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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 12:52:58 -0400
Subject: Re: North/South; First, Third and Fourth?


In my experience, the "fourth world" usually refers to "aboriginal" peoples,
as in the Americas and in India. Their governments do not recognize their
needs in general, and they are thus an unseen and unheard "fourth world." I
remember seeing a book with the title The Fourth World or Fourth World Arts,
published in the 70s, but I can't remember the name of the editor. The term
has certainly been around since the 70s. Lisa


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>From: Ed Wiltse <ecwiltse-AT-naz.edu>
>To: postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Re: North/South; First, Third and Fourth?
>Date: Tue, Aug 1, 2000, 11:54 AM
>

>Joe and Liz ask about the resurgence of the terms North and South to replace First
>and Third worlds.  It's my sense that North/South never really went away,
>particularly in political science discourse (it's there in Wallerstein, back into
>the 70s), but obviously in the post-Soviet era the three worlds theory makes even
>less sense than ever, hence the shift.  Of course, despite its usefulness as a
>shorthand for certain axes of domination, this terminology is equally problematic
>(is Serbia North or South? how about China? Australia?).  But alternative terms are
>hard to come by...
>
>While we're slipping back a bit into the question and answer list-mode Sangeeta
>rightly laments, I've got a question about Marlene's use of the term "fourth
>world.."  This term came up at our poco reading group the other night, where
>someone defined it along the lines of what were sometimes called "internal
>colonies"--populations of migrants and their descendants living in more or less
>unassimilated groups within first world states.  Is this the generally accepted
>meaning?  Can anyone suggest a source or etymology for this term?
>
>Ed
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