Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:13:29 -0400
From: Miriam Schacht <mschacht-AT-mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: RE: white men saving brown women from brown men again?


There's an editorial cartoon illustrating some of these ideas quite nicely
- the disparity between what the US says it is fighting for and what
interests are actually at stake. 

http://www.uclick.com/client/wpc/tr/2001/10/04/index.html

Miriam


At 03:32 PM 10/15/01 +0200, you wrote:
>I second that Malcolm Thompson,
>western notions of human rights and feminism don't have allot of meaning
>for much of the third world, because the cycles of poverty are so
>overpowering. I mean who are wee to point the finger at the taliban,
>after helping to bring them for power. This issue came up in the Balkan
>war as well "Serbs rape muslim women" was a way in which the western media
>got non-hawk elememts of our societies behind the war machine. ANyone who
>still thikns that he west is for human rights for "women's right" is only
>looking at what our government says not what it does.
>
>Jeremiahx
>
>On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Malcolm Thompson wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 00:23:58 +0000
>> From: Malcolm Thompson <mac_thompson-AT-hotmail.com>
>> Reply-To: postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>> To: postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>> Subject: RE: white men saving brown women from brown men again?
>>
>> >Let's see if I understand this: when an Afghan woman is led to a soccer
>> >field and forced to kneel on the ground, and then has her brains blown out
>> >by a member of the Taliban, she's not a victim?  Heaven forbid white men
>> >should want to do anything about it.
>>
>> oh man, do you actually think that any of the people who are pushing the
>> buttons and entering the coordinates for the bombs in afghanistan give a
>> flying fuck about brown women? one wonders, then, why they're bombing them.
>>
>> and yes, i'm sure there are white men who care, but so what? i'm so
tired of
>> seeing someone's generalization used as a way to disqualify the whole
>> argument in the sanctimonious name of rigour. fuck that. don't be so
>> disingenuous.
>>
>> toodle-oo,
>> mlcm
>>
>> "Aw, nuts." - Lenny
>>
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Miriam Schacht (mschacht-AT-mail.utexas.edu)

Assistant Instructor, Dept. of English
University of Texas at Austin
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