From: James Procter <j.r.procter-AT-stir.ac.uk>
Subject: Shaandaar cafe? 
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:35:14 +0100


Dear all

I'm teaching The Satanic Verses at the moment. Does anybody out there know
where the word 'Shaandaar' (as in Shaandaar cafe) comes from and what it
means?

Thanks in advance for your help

James


James Procter
Dept. of English Studies
University of Stirling

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> 
> Apologise for the multiple posting before I'm trying to come to terms 
> with a new web-based mail system.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Hysterical in what sense? - funny or evidence of my physic damage?
> 
> Perhaps I should clarify.  What I find utopian about your responses is 
> your refusal to see that your claim that there is no humane alternative 
> in fact contributes to the preservation of the present system of 
> economic system.  The point isn't that uneven development is an 
> irritating by product of captialism - it is the point of capitalism.  
> 
> To say that all the alternatives have failed insn't pragmatism - a 
> thoroughly ideological concept anyway, somewhat akin to "common sense" -
>  it is to dodge the question which is "Is this system good and if not 
> how can it be improved or improved upon?"  You are right that there 
> have been manifest failures of other systems although I must say that 
> capitalism has been singularly bad at removing dictators and their 
> cronies or at stopping them from harming their citizens.  Are human 
> rights in Cuba say, any worse than they were under Batista?  Or in 
> captialist Chile, or in El Salvador, Indonesia etc...
> 
> There is really solid evidence to suggest that the quality of public 
> health is directly related to the narrowness of the gap between rich 
> and poor.  That serves as an indictment of capitalist forms of economic 
> distribution.
> 
> There is equally good evidence that employee-owned companies are more 
> efficient than other types of companies working within a capitalist 
> system.  While not Communist this does raise questions about the way in 
> which the "market" opperates.  We are all supposed to be appalled that 
> bin Laden apparently speculated on Sept 11 when as we know that is the 
> very manner in which the stock exchange functions - a Casino as Keynes 
> once described it.  Soros is apparently irresponsible because he 
> generates economic fluctuations but he is simply following the rules of 
> the system
> 
> Capitalism has economic consequences between nations as I have been 
> trying to point out.  While you are to be applauded for contributing to 
> organisations like Oxfam that contribution is always going to be partly 
> futile unless you are prepared to ask the question "why is it that we 
> need organisations like Oxfam?"  This isn't escapism.
> 
> Dont be flippant, answer the questions.
> 
> Liam
> 
> Quoting Paul Brians <brians-AT-mail.wsu.edu>:
> 
> > This is hysterical. My pragmatism is is "utopian" whereas sweeping
> > anti-capitalist denunciations are not? Oh dear.
> >
> > The main flaw in capitalism, as Marx pinpointed, is the way it
> > generates economic inequality. But that's not all it does. It seems
> >
> > to be terrifically successful at generating and spreading wealth,
> > though in a shockingly uneven fashion. The problem is that programs
> >
> > purporting to impose maximum equality under Marxism have generally 1)
> >
> > failed and 2) robbed those who lived under them of important freedoms
> >
> > and 3) been much less successful in generating wealth for all except
> >
> > a handful of dictators and their cronies.
> >
> > Damn straight, I'm a liberal. Say it loud and say it proud:
> > LIBERAL!
> >
> > Spending time plotting to overthrow capitalism when no such prospect
> >
> > is in the offing and when no humane alternative seems realistic is to
> >
> > me pure escapism, or  impractical idealism at best. The world needs
> >
> > lots of reform, and lots of people willing to work at reform.
> >
> > I've been sending checks to Doctors Without Borders, Unicef, and
> > Oxfam lately. That's a modest way to work toward improving the world,
> >
> > but I think more useful than most of what passes for postcolonial
> > economic theory.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Paul Brians, Department of English
> > Washington State University
> > Pullman, WA 99164-5020
> > brians-AT-wsu.edu
> > http://www.wsu.edu/~brians
> >
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