Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:45:31 +1100 (EST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?paul=20newman?= <pnjune-AT-yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: cricket


> And what do you mean by 'of colour' - actual
> physically observable pigmentation?
> Truly, we don't see any players identifying as
> Indigenous or even of Indigenous
> descent, but that is not to say that there hasn't
> been some from the latter
> category. 

Jason Gillespie does so, and is always in the current
team but for injury. He was also captain of the
indigenous side in Howard's "reconciliation" game last
year. None of the other indigenous players in this
game had achieved any sort of representative success
as far as i can remember. 

> But to focus crudely on physical appearance for a
> moment, the Australian
> cricketer Andrew Symonds does not look like the
> usual 'white' Australian Test
> Cricket player.

Symonds is of West Indian background.

regards

Paul

> 
> So, because we haven't noticed a player with dark
> pigmentation in the team, and
> no-one has identified as Indigenous, doesn't
> necessarily mean that Dave Whatmore
> has been the only Indigenous Australian Test
> cricketer. (And the same can be
> said of ethnic minority groups.) I don't write this
> to refute anything you have
> said Salil, but just to suggest some of the
> complexity of the issue here.
> 
> The absence of Indigenous players in Australian
> cricket has interested me for
> some time, and it has also been put to the Channel 9
> commentary team on several
> occasions - this is Packer's crowd of retired
> cricketers, Benaud, Greig, Taylor
> et al. During the lunch interval each day of the
> series they also present the
> Cricket Show, where they interview players, present
> documentary style segments,
> and answer viewers' email questions, offer advice to
> young players etc. It was
> from them that I learned about the efforts to
> introduce Indigenous children to
> the sport. Perhaps we could do something towards
> increasing public attention on
> this issue if all the people on this list who are
> interested in this issue could
> send the commentary team a polite email when the
> one-day series starts.
> 
> greg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Salil Tripathi" <salil61-AT-hotmail.com>
> To: <postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 10:12 PM
> Subject: Re: cricket
> 
> 
> | Greg,
> |
> | You are right; the first Australian side to tour
> England was the
> | all-indigenous side, in 1800s. They did beat
> England. But it was not called
> | an official side. Ramachandra guha's Picador Book
> of cricket has a nice
> | piece about the team.
> |
> | However, on quotas, the issue is not white
> standards v black standards. I
> | don't mean to imply that black players have to
> rise to white standards. In
> | WEst Indies, the issue is reversed. Other than
> Larry Gomes and Steve
> | Camacho, one has to really try hard to remember
> the last time a white player
> | made it to the team. Indians, from Kanhai,
> Kallicharran, and now
> | Chanderpaul, have been able to break through the
> barrier. In H. Achong, at
> | one point, a Chinese player played for West
> Indies.
> |
> | Similarly with other countries: Sri Lanka includes
> Muralitharan, a Tamil;
> | India has routinely had minority players --
> Muslims, Sikhs, even so-called
> | scheduled castes, PArsis, and so on. PAkistan once
> had a reserve wicket
> | keeper who was a Hindu -- Anil Dalpat, and Youssuf
> Yohana, the great
> | batsman, must grate the nerve of some Pakistanis,
> when he does the sign of
> | cross, to thank the Lord after scoring a century
> for Pakistan! England, too,
> | has had many members of minorities playing for it.
> |
> | Australia has been the laggard here -- I don't
> want to impute motives here;
> | I don't follow Australian politics closely. But
> Australia has had a long
> | tradition of immigrant communities -- there are so
> many Sri Lankans in
> | Australia. Surely, one of them could make it big?
> What about Martin Chee
> | Kwee, a Chinese-Australian who I believe played
> for NSW? Indeed, the issue
> | of indigenous population and their access to
> cricket is important, but in
> | the intervening period, why is it that other than
> DAve Whatmore we have a
> | problem coming up with the name of a single
> Australian of color in the team?
> | I ask this with a sincere interest, not as a way
> of trying to portray
> | Australia as racist.....
> |
> | Salil
> |
> |
>
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