Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:58:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marwan Dalal <dmarwan-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: yaya Viva --MANDELA


it is almost becoming a full time job to have to
respond to not intellectual challenges on this list,
rather mere ignorance, nothing less, nothing more...

i thought that mr. mandela went through the faze of
armed struggle, before changing tactics.

there was never such a thing called barak's proposal.
there was hasbara (propaganda) about it, but not a
proposal, as richard mali, an official on the american
team at camp david, and a palestinian academic,
described in an article in the new york review of
books.

but more importantly, barak was not in a position to
"offer" any occupied land. it is simply not the
israeli government's to offer it. it should get the
hell out of there, and it won't, until palestinian
resistance will get it out of there, as happened in
previous colonial contexts.

as to israel's right to exist embodied in
international law:
1. you probably mean un resolution 181, which states
the creation of 2 states in palestine. in a previous
posting i explained the injustice of this resolution.

2. do you think that there is any chance that israel
will apply the same un resolution that you claim is
the basis of its international legitimacy: accepting
the creation of a palestinian state on 46% of historic
palestine, implementing un resolution 194 regarding
the right of return for palestinian refugees, and
internationalising jerusalem?





--- Grant McKenna <GrantM-AT-prcsu.durban.gov.za> wrote:
> It is fast becoming the shibboleth of political
> orthodoxy amongst some academics that one condemns
> Israel unreservedly and supports the Palestinians as
> fervently. 
> 
> Former South African President Mandela has failed to
> do so; he has expressed disquiet at the techniques
> of resistance used by some Palestinians, and has
> expressly and deliberately stated that the existence
> of Israel as a nation is established by
> international law and is irrevocable.
> 
> Mr Mandela has criticised the excesses of Israel's
> actions, and endorsed the establishment of a
> Palestinian state. His endorsement of the attempts
> of Mr Barak were a considered response to the
> situation at the time; if only Mr Arafat had been
> prepared to go along with those proposals a
> contiguous Palestine would now exist.
> 
> Mr Mandela  has not gone far enough for some
> people's approval. For myself, I'm glad I voted for
> him. 
> 
> 
> Grant McKenna
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