Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:34:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. w." <chemicalis-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Need assistance writing a rebuttal to * Arab-Israeli Conflict*


Who wrote these "facts" assumes that all Arabs are
Muslims ignoring thefact that Arabs can Muslims, Jews
and christians; and like usual a religion becomes a
race, becomes an identity (like in the case of
Judaism).

actually earlier, in the beginning of Islam, Muslims
used to pray facing Jerusalem's Mosque (al-Aqsa).
The prophet Mohammad visited al-Quds or Jerusalem's
Mosque taken by the angels in the night (and that
night of the visit is mentioned in the Qoran).
Palestians are fighting for their lands, identity and
homes that were taken from them, they are not claiming
to  fight the Crusades. 
 
--- Omar Guessous <o_guessous-AT-yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Jaclyn, i'll fwd some some sites later tonight. 
> But just for laughs, how in the world (literally)
> could Muslims pray w/ their back to Jerusalem? The
> only that would be feasible from any place in the
> world, is by literally making Jerusalem the
> reference
> point, which it is not. The reference point is Mecca
> (or is it the Qa'ba? sorry, always forget, had a
> poor
> Islamic education :)
> But regardless, that lie is so blatant (like most of
> them, but this one is SO easy to rebutt), and it is
> such a proof of idiocy, ignorance and/or deliberate
> disinformation, that it just might suffice ... 
>  .O.
> 
> --- Jaclyn Rosebrook-Collignon
> <jaclynrosebrook-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I unfortunately received this slanted,
> undocumented
> > *crash course* on the
> > *Arab-Israeli* conflict written by an *anonymous*
> > Christian professor.
> > Could anyone out there help me with a rebuttal or
> > send me a link to a page
> > (legitimate and documented) with specific
> > information countering the
> > arguments presented here?  Isn't it strange that
> the
> > world Palestine or
> > Palestinian doesn't appear anywhere!?
> > Thanks,
> > Jaclyn
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Crash Course on the Arab Israeli Conflict
> > >
> > > Here are overlooked facts in the current Middle
> > East situation. These
> > were
> > compiled by a Christian university professor.
> > 
> > > HERE'S THE BRIEF FACTS ON THE ISRAELI CONFLICT
> > TODAY....Takes just 1.5
> > minutes to read!!!! It makes sense and it's not
> > slanted. Jew and non-Jew --
> > it doesn't matter.
> > > Thank You.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Nationhood and Jerusalem. Israel became a
> > nation in 1312 B.C.E., two
> > thousand years before the rise of Islam.
> > >
> > > 2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying
> > themselves as part of a
> > Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the
> > establishment of the
> > modern State of Israel.
> > >
> > > 3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E., the
> > Jews have had dominion
> > over the land for one thousand years with a
> > continuous presence in the land
> > for the past 3,300 years.
> > >
> > > 4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in
> > 635 C.E. lasted no more
> > than 22 years.
> > >
> > > 5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the
> > Jewish capital. Jerusalem
> > has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim
> > entity.
> > Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they
> > never sought to make it
> > their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to
> > visit.
> > >
> > > 6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in
> > Tanach, the Jewish Holy
> > Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the
> > Koran.
> > >
> > > 7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem.
> > Mohammed never came to
> > Jerusalem.
> > >
> > > 8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with
> > their backs toward
> > Jerusalem.
> > >
> > > 9. Arab and Jewish Refugees: In 1948 the Arab
> > refugees were encouraged to
> > leaveI srael by Arab leaders promising to purge
> the
> > land of Jews.
> > >
> > > 10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from
> > Arab lands due to Arab
> > brutality, persecution and pogroms.
> > >
> > > 11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel
> in
> > 1948 is estimated to
> > be
> > around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from
> > Arab lands is estimated
> > to be the same.
> > >
> > > 12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not
> absorbed
> > or integrated into the
> > Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast
> Arab
> > territory. Out of the
> > 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is
> > the only refugee group
> > in
> > the world that has never been absorbed or
> integrated
> > into their own
> > peoples'
> > lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed
> into
> > Israel, a country no
> > larger
> > > than the state of New Jersey.
> > >
> > > 13. The Arab - Israeli Conflict: The Arabs are
> > represented by eight
> > separate nations, not including the Palestinians.
> > There is only one Jewish
> > nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars
> and
> > lost.
> > Israel defended itself each time and won.
> > >
> > > 14. The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the
> > destruction of the State of
> > Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of
> > the West Bank land,
> > autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has
> > supplied them.
> > >
> > > 15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were
> > desecrated and the Jews
> > were denied access to places of worship. Under
> > Israeli rule, all Muslim and
> > Christian sites have been preserved and made
> > accessible to people of all
> > faiths.
> > >
> > > 16. The U.N. Record on Israel and the Arabs: of
> > the 175 Security Council
> > resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed
> > against Israel.
> > >
> > > 17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions
> voted
> > on before 1990, 429
> > were
> > directed against Israel.
> > >
> > > 18. The U.N was silent while 58 Jerusalem
> > Synagogues were destroyed by
> > the
> > Jordanians.
> > >
> > > 19. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians
> > systematically desecrated
> > the
> > ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.
> > >
> > > 20. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians
> > enforced an apartheid-like
> > policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple
> > Mount and the Western
> > Wall.
> > >
> > > These are incredible times. We have to ask what
> > our role should be. What
> > will we tell our grandchildren we did when there
> was
> > a turning point in
> > Jewish destiny, an opportunity to make a
> difference?
> > 
> > Pray for the peace of Jerusalem; they shall
> prosper
> > that love thee.
> > (Psalms 122:6).
> > >
> > > START NOW!! Send this to 20 other people you
> know
> > and ask them to send it
> > to twenty others, Jew and non-Jew--it doesn't
> really
> > matter.
> > 
> > 
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> nothing to do with that distant, strange world out
> there."
> - Paulo Freire, in 'Pedagogy of Freedom'
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