Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:47:58 +1000
From: saeed urrehman <think-AT-riseup.net>
Subject: Re: Islam & Liberalism



ok. but my question was how one can 'liberalize' islam without being 
eurocentric. i was not saying how one can look at islam through the 
perspective of liberalism.

ok, i rephrase my question: how can one radicalize islam without being 
eurocentric? how can one  make the mullah/imam aware of the multiplicity 
that is islam?

saeed





At 05:33 AM 4/30/2002 -0600, you wrote:

>Saeed,
>
>I think the difference between 'bida'a' (innovation) and Ijtihad are, to a 
>degree, clear. My understanding is that Ijtihad (loosely, inferring from 
>the major Islamic sources--The Qur'an and Hadeeth, the prophet's 
>tradition--new laws and regulations that would satisfy the changing needs 
>of Muslim society) is mainly concerned with the needs of the Muslim 
>society, while bida'a is concerned with innovation in forms of 
>worship--iba'dat. Consequently, bida'a and Ijtihad are not on the same 
>track. Bida'a is 'radical' in this sense.
>
>On the other hand I am not saying that English words are always 
>Eurocentric or shouldn't be used; the words computer, alcohol, algebra, 
>etc may not be as harmful as the word 'liberalism', since analyzing a 
>culture with the latter is going to be affected--consciously or 
>unconsciously-- by the imported or 'enforced' concepts associated with it, 
>and not merely an innocent word.
>
>Ali
>
>
>
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>
>that is the danger. but i guess i was talking about "bida'a" or innovation
>or ijtihad or other forms of radicatlity. not wastiya or moderation. but do
>you think the english words are always eurocentric? alcohol, algebra,
>cypher are all english words now. but they are from arabic or orient.
>
>saeed
>
>At 02:55 AM 4/30/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>
>>Saeed;
>>
>>The baggage of connotations and concepts associated with 'liberalism' is,
>>perhaps, already Eurocentric. I guess that we need to find another
>>termcould be the Islamic concept of 'wasati'yah' or moderationthat would
>>originate from an Islamic perspective.
>>
>>Ali
>>
>>
>>dear list members
>>
>>please suggest any books that contribute towards the liberalization of
>>islam without becoming eurocentric.
>>
>>thanks
>>saeed
>>
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>ali alromaih
>department of english
>colorado state university
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