File spoon-archives/postcolonial.archive/postcolonial_2002/postcolonial.0205, message 142


Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 03:30:58 +1000
From: saeed urrehman <think-AT-riseup.net>
Subject: Re: Alternative to this list: why it's a good idea



i think this quote below tells us what postcolonial theory is about.

saeed
-------------------------------------
"Yes, Marcos is gay.

Marcos is gay in San Francisco, Black in South Africa, an Asian in Europe, 
a Chicano in Ysidro, an anarchist in Spain, a Palestinian in Israel, a 
Mayan Indian in the streets of San Cristobal, a Jew in Germany, a Gypsy in 
Poland, a Mohawk in Quebec, a pacifist in Bosnia, a single woman on the 
Metro at 10 p.m., a peasant without land, a gang member in the slums, an 
unemployed worker, an unhappy student, and, of course, a Zapatista in the 
mountains.

Marcos is all the exploited, marginalized, oppressed minorities resisting 
and saying, "Enough". He is every minority who is now beginning to speak 
and every majority that must shut up and listen. He is every untolerated 
group searching for a way to speak. Everything that makes power and the 
good consciences of those in power uncomfortable--this is Marcos."

- Subcommandante Insurgente Marcos of the EZLN
(in response to an interviewer's question about his sexuality).


At 11:54 AM 5/14/2002 -0500, you wrote:




>one of the things poco theory teaches us, andrew, as i understand it, is to
>listen to the voice of the other. that, also, is why there is a "conflict,"
>as you put it, in palestine/israel. because israel/the us/ and the west
>writ large, including the canadian state, refuses to listen to the voice of
>the other. in my humble opinion, there you have the connection, in a
>nutshell, between theory and politics.
>i could say more about palestine and washing one's hands off terrible
>situations because they continue to be terrible and seemingly unresolvable
>(like the mess in my country, sri lanka) but i would like to end with
>reminding those on this list of something che guevara once said (and this
>is not an exact quote): whoever is oppressed in this world is my comrade.
>sincerely,
>qadri ismail
>
>
>
>At 11:30 AM 5/14/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> >Hello all
> >
> >While Jaclyn raises some pertinent questions, this list has become (for me0
> >little more than a battleground to rehash the politics of the current
>situation
> >in the middle east.  While such world events are important, there have
>been no
> >attempts to link the political discussion to PoCo lit and theory, which
>are the
> >two reasons why I came here in the first place, ie, to avail myself of
>exchanges
> >of ideas and resources about PoCo lit and theory.  I can keep abreast of
>world
> >events via other media.  And as a scholar, I simply don't have time to wade
> >through the stuff getting posted here.  Yes, I can press the delete
>button, and
> >I do, but there isn't much here anymore, regardless.
> >
> >And dare I say this?  The Palestinian/Israeli conflict bores me silly.  It's
> >endless, as is the pro & con tit-for-tat discussion surrounding it.  It
>reminds
> >me a great deal of the separation debate here in Canada re: Quebec.  It
>simply
> >goes on and on with the result that the debate has become largely 
> sterile and
> >repetitious.
> >
> >Andrew
> >
> >On Tue, 14 May 2002, Jaclyn Rosebrook-Collignon wrote:
> >
> >> Just a couple of questions about the new list proposal.
> >> Why can't a scholarly discourse take place here in the pit along with all
> >> the other voices?  Must it be segretated too?  Isn't this part of our
> >> failures as scholars and researchers?  When the din of the masses 
> conflicts
> >> with our purposes, we cloister ourselves?  Why are you afraid of
>*anonymous*
> >> & masked voices? And how can one be interested in postcolonialism without
> >> being interested in the geopolitical situation?  In my view, the
>researchers
> >> and scholars (and other professionally minded people in postcolonialism-
> >> whatever that means) have a duty to be on lists like this to temper,
>ignite,
> >> orient and rectify the flows of argument.
> >> Don't be sectarian, don't leave the chaos of the masses. Don't we work
> >> enough in *silence*?
> >> Jaclyn
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: saeed urrehman <think-AT-riseup.net>
> >> To: <postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:38 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Alternative to this list -- 'H-Postcolonial' (proposed)
> >>
> >>
> >> > i think any list that does not talk about the "daily grind" of 
> Israel and
> >> > Palestine is not worthy of subscription.
> >> >
> >> > saeed
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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