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Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:47:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Changing one's mind ...
From: "bob brown" <vacirca-AT-charm.net>


    jaclyn, it sounds suspiciously like its a cleaned up acdaemic version of
Mao's famous statement that it takes intellectuals ten years to become good
communists. Lenin and gramsci talking about the construction of socialist
culture and socialist individuals, make the same point, though gramsci is
referring to the process of workers becoming intellectuals more
specifically. among left organizers, a social grouping that deals with
changing peoples minds on a daily basis, the general wisdom is that it takes
15 years to incubate a new political movement. this process a;ways involves
the emergnce of a new generation of intellectual leadership. i too would be
curious, anthony where yu got that figure of ten years, though i thnks its
pretty accurate , or at least in the ballpark.  bob
--
"solidarity means sharing the same risks" - Che
( la solidarita significa correre gli stessi rischi)

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>From: Jaclyn Rosebrook-Collignon <jaclynr-AT-free.fr>
>To: postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Re:Changing one's mind ...
>Date: Wed, May 15, 2002, 6:10 AM
>

> Sorry for the multiple postings; I have another question.  Anthony, could
> you please send me the reference to the work where you found that changing
> one's mind takes 10 years?  Perhaps if someone convinces me that it takes
> that long, I'll change my approach.
> Thanks,
> jaclyn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anthony McCann <mccannat-AT-si.edu>
> To: <postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Alternative to this list -- 'H-Postcolonial' (proposed)
>
>
>> For me it's not a question of isolating from 'the masses'. I am on a lot
> of lists and there is a distinct dominance of Israeli/Palestine discussion,
> which is fine, but I am already subscribed to lists that provide me with
> such discussions and I didn't subscribe to this one to get inundated with
> the same. There is also a high proportion of flaming here compared to other
> lists I have been on, and if I were in a room with such interaction I would
> soon walk out.
>>
>> In my view, the researchers
>> and scholars (and other professionally minded people in postcolonialism-
>> whatever that means) have a duty to be on lists like this to temper,
> ignite,
>> orient and rectify the flows of argument.>
>>
>> Honestly, I couldn't be bothered. It takes about 10 years for a person's
> mind to change, so I'm not going to engage in to and fro argument for the
> sake of it. Neither am I interested in making other people think like me. I
> am interested in engaging with colleagues in ways that help me bring my
> thinking to new places, not in doubling back on myself all the time to
> engage in claim and counterclaim argumentation. Internet lists can easily
> get caught up in the politics of rhetoric for rhetoric's sake, and I'm not
> interested in that.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Anthony McCann
>>
>>
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