Subject: Re: salon interview & rushdie & chomsky
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 03:00:25 -0500


post-colonialism has erged to help neo-Aestheticism and  neo-colonialism to 
emerge. it is "thanks" to post-colonialists that neo-colonialists politics 
are govering our world now in academia and outside.
we are not living in a period of post-colonialisms any more. and as usual 
academicians discover everything late (e.g. re-reading
Shakespeare(s) took 5.5 centuries,...). post-colonialists have finished 
their readings and re-reading, more has to be done when realizing that we 
live in an era of neo-colonialism; hence, your discourse (post-colonialist) 
is equivalent of Marie Antoinette when she asked what her people were angry 
about and she was answered "bread", she said "donnez- leurs des 
croissants!". you are giving academia croissants and eating croissants while 
people are struggling for bread?) it is easy to interpret the past and 
invent it, but it is harder to read the present  and the future. take the 
example of Dickens, dadaists, symbolists, magic realists, surrealists, all 
painters academia rejected them like academia rejects many ideas and 
thoughts now. you all know that once we start working on a research project 
it already out-dated let alone a PhD thesis.
professors protect themselves against their students because they are afraid 
that by giving them so much knowledge, those same students can debunk what 
they learnt. so, professors tend to produce followers (elite students) from 
whom they can steal sometimes ideas (since they are younger and have more 
time to do research than busy publishing profs.). and before the students 
finish their projects-- and after being directed by their profs. or director 
of thesis, articles and conferences and sometimes books would be published, 
etc.--they find out they are betrayed..

....






>From: nouri gana <nourig-AT-hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: Re: salon interview & rushdie & chomsky
>Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:32:56 +0000
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>for me post-colonialism is dead, out-fashioned , and its preachers are as 
>old as dirt.
>--> pronoucing the death of postcolonialism in this manner, in the 
>assertive, is itself evocative of the enduring presence of postcolonialsim. 
>Mona, it is not easy to pronouce the death of something that you deem no 
>longer useful, let alone abeject: "dirt". I don't want to enter into a 
>barren discussion of whether or not postcolonialism is dead, surpassed, or 
>what you will, but I think your statement can, if taken to heart, generate 
>a revival of postcolonialism, without necessarily ascertaining its demise.
>thank you, too.
>Nouri
>
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>>From: "Kamran D. Rastegar" <kdr7-AT-columbia.edu>
>>Reply-To: postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>>To: postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>>Subject: Re: salon interview & rushdie & chomsky
>>Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:52:43 -0500 (EST)
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>>
>> > salil, you pose many interesting questions about islam.  why doesnt
>> > someone on the list respond to these questions??
>>
>>with due respect to salil, whose posts i do often benefit from (despite
>>differences of opinion)... perhaps the reason no-one responds to these
>>questions is that no-one is interested in them. i am bored to tears by
>>having to engage in reactive discourse over whether or not muhammad
>>was to be essentially judged in one way or another for his marriages, etc.
>>the market for these debates is already cornered by the likes of jerry
>>falwell, no? if folks really feel these essentialist readings are
>>pressing issues for "understanding islam" (whatever we may define the
>>latter as) then a post-colonial listserv may not be the place for such
>>teatime speculation. if we all wanted to opine about the near-mythical
>>qualities of the various accounts of the prophets of various religions,
>>i doubt we'd have any time to talk about the other issues that may really
>>matter in coming to terms with cultural differences. from arjuna to buddha
>>to moses to even jesus, the legacy of different religious icons have
>>interpretive resonances that change over time. why not talk about that,
>>rather than - to quote falwell - if muhammad was a "pedophile" or a
>>"terrorist" (btw - does anyone read foucalut's work on sexuality? just as
>>a starting point?)... sigh... it's a cliche of the genre, but between
>>berry and salil's concerns over sightings of an object they call islam,
>>and the near-amusing ramblings of the one individual who writes under
>>various names in praise of self (much like god does, or is said to do), i
>>feel more and more at a loss for what to say here on this list...
>>
>>sorry for the digression. i hope this leads the discussion somewhere.
>>
>>-k
>>
>>
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