Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 00:22:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: salon interview & rushdie --0-1383698829-1039411326=:83825 ');} else if (_version '); }// -->");}// --> October 2002 Contents Servile states How Saddam keeps power in Iraq * A question of human rights Knowing and not knowing * Kurdistan: on the map at last * Kurdistan timeline Israel: the army in command * United States: so proudly we hail Brazil: in debt and doubt * Show us the money * South Africa disdains its own continent * Morocco: democracy denied The World Bank of last resort * Photojournalists fight the fluff * The Nazi siren's call * French version: Handicapés à vie Keywords: - Palestine - Health - Violence would you like to read more? subscribe now search the site: [input] [input] to receive our free monthly summaries, please fill in your e-mail address [input] [input] [input] [input] 'THE IDF'S ARROGANCE CONCEALS A LACK OF STRATEGY'Collateral damageby MICHEL REVEL * IN ALL 2,435 Palestinians were killed between September 2000 and August 2002 in the colonial war that Ariel Sharon's government calls self-defence against terrorism; 497 of them were aged under 18 (1). It also left thousands of others permanently handicapped. Yet there is only one proper rehabilitation centre in the entire Gaza Strip, the Al Wafa rehabilitation and health centre, which opened in 1995. It has only 51 beds. The director, Dr Ibrahim Ghazal, showed me some of his patients. What sort of life can Fadi, who is 14, expect? On his way home from school one day in January, he was hit in the head by a bullet fired from a tank. He has been in hospital ever since. Unable to control his muscles, he still cannot sit up properly in a wheelchair. He is also aphasic. He spends most of the day in a rehabilitation room with physiotherapists who are working to reduce the stiffness in his joints. I saw one of them joke with him as he stretched the boy's muscles and attempted to bend his knees. Fadi alternately laughed and winced in pain. What will happen to him later? Will he, like Riad Ali Nasser, have a devoted family to look after him? Riad, now 43, was also hit in the head by a bullet, 12 years ago during the first intifada. He cannot stand, has very limited vision in his left eye, and very poor hearing even with a hearing aid he provided by a charitable organisation. I watch his son, Muhammad, 17, and his wife, Itaf, carry him to his makeshift wheelchair from the cart in which he had travelled to visit his brother. They pushed it up to the table where his daughter, May, served tea for the guest. Zeinab al-Falit is 45 and has 11 children, aged from 6 to 23, the eldest in dialysis. Like most Palestinians, her husband is unemployed. On 8 April, ZeInab was weeding aubergines and tomatoes in her garden when she was hit by three bullets from a tank protecting an Israeli settlement 150 metres away. One bullet traversed her lumbar spinal column. Since then she has been paraplegic. Though her legs have no muscle tone, they may eventually be able to support her over a short distance on flat ground, with heavy braces and crutches. She will be able to urinate only through a catheter, with a permanent risk of infection. She will never work in her garden again. Randa al-Kassir is 38. Her first husband was killed in the first intifada. Her second is unemployed. She has four children, aged 6 to 15. In the Rafah suburb where she lives, she was fired at from a tank on 1 May. A bullet shattered a dorsal vertebra. The muscles of her trunk and lower limbs are permanently paralysed, and she will have difficulty in moving about in a wheelchair. She will always be at risk from urinary infections and bedsores that will regularly put her in hospital. The life of Alam al-Kabta, 23, has also been marred by repeated hospitalisation. He has been a tetraplegic since 23 December 1992, when he went for a walk with his father in the Gaza market. He was hit in the neck by a bullet. Alam was a bright boy who wanted to be an engineer. Now he is dependent on his father and his six brothers and sisters to wash and feed him, and move him from his bed to his wheelchair. Kamal Britka, aged 16, Nassar al-Rizzi, 18, and Yussef Muhammad al-Mansi, 17, were less promising pupils who had planned to look for work farming and building. All three were hit by bullets while walking in the street. Kamal and Nassar are paraplegic, and Yussef a hemiplegic. They will be always have difficult and limited mobility. On 11 February Awad Sifi, 49, a primary school teacher, was sitting at home near a window when he was hit in the neck and lower jaw by a dumdum bullet fired from a tank. He was in a coma for eight weeks. Dr Amee Jameh told me that Awad was known in Jabalia for his helpfulness. Now he is tetraplegic, and still has a tracheostomy tube. His wife and 10 children are impatient for him to return to their badly damaged home. He will need their help for the rest of his life. Wail Joudia, 32, a carpenter, is luckier. On 4 May he was on his way home from Israel, where he worked as a day labourer, when he came under fire from the Netzarim settlement. A complex fracture of his right ankle was operated on in Egypt. After lengthy rehabilitation, Wail will retain only some stiffness and pain in the joint and will probably, although with difficulty, be able to continue working as a carpenter. He will be able to manage to climb scaffolding, but the long walks along steep footpaths that skirt Israeli roadblocks are another matter. It is impossible to say how many of the 40,000 Palestinians (including 8,000 minors) wounded in the second intifada will remain handicapped. Many will have lasting or permanent injuries, and join those handicapped through disease, or as a result of domestic, road and industrial accidents. How are we to evaluate the psychological damage sustained by this population, for whom the terrors and traumas of early childhood have been followed by aggression and humiliation? --------------------------------- * Professor of physical medicine and rehabilation in Paris Read: Israel: the army in command (1) According to AFP, 1,842 Palestinians, 604 Israelis and 50 foreigners were killed from the end of September 2000 to 16 September 2002. Translated by Barry Smerin --------------------------------- ALL RIGHTS RESERVED © 1997-2002 Le Monde diplomatique //For IE5try {gotag();}catch(e) {};gvar="O" Jaclyn Rosebrook-Collignon <jaclynr-AT-free.fr> wrote:Yey, Yey... that's finally what I was hoping for. Bravo poco friends! I just wanted some reiteration of my gut reactions about Rushdie's politics - media based - as opposed to his literature - that is well known but not as widely read as the NYT, of course. Yes, yes, Rushdie is a "media whore" and I really just wanted to hear it from someone else besides my hysterical inner voice that screams "blasphemy". (and I use that term loooooosely) And yes, yes, we should just let it go (on a certain level) because his literature speaks for itself. We should keep reading or not reading his books according to our desire. And I should stop looking for "guidance" and "information" (and I use those terms looosely, as well) when reading editorials by writers I hold in high esteem. But that is MY error (mea culpa), I'm still very naive and gullible in spite of my *experience* and I still look for pearls of wisdom dropping from the mouths of those who possess the "gift". (You can laugh but I've probably the profile of a perfect cult recruitee - but knowing it doesn't save me from my "blindness") Anyway, I digress, and that now brings us to the next step of the argument in socio-cultural terms and not necessarily geopolitical ones. How did Rushdie get here from there? Or rather how does his literary writing escape the the demagogic nature of his "editorial" writing. It is the cleavage between the two that becomes interesting. And as Mona so deftly stated <religions and scared and apologetic when he is afraid (check Imaginary Homelands).>> And then asks: <> Excellent question, excellent question! "a treasoness cosmo whore" or "a free spirituous fleeing saint" (how to mix the two together and without becoming a viscous serpent sucking on its tail?)... But perhaps the list is tired of this and would like to get onto other things. I will ponder Mona's question out here in the desert and if anyone wants to continue on or off list, I'm all eyes and mind. Best, Jaclyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maldoror" To: Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 8:36 AM Subject: Re: salon interview & rushdie > > It does not matter that Rushdie is a > > member of the Muslim community > > he's not a member. he's a professed athiest. > > > A man can be a woman, > > really? and how might that occur? do tell. > > > State and Church remain > > seperate and that is the choice of secular > > societies. > > not in the US. > > > it (satanic verses) mocks the pompousness of dogma > > i'll give you that. > > > So why can't > > Rushdie be a Muslim, because you say so? > > hmmm... could it be because he's an athiest which by > definition believes in no supreme being, whereas a > muslim believes in god. logic anyone? > > > I support a hip atheistic Islam > > yeah the one where one minute god exists and the next > it doesn't. that's hip i suppose... in a delusional, > drug-induced sort of way. > > > all the rest of that crap about > > cutting peoples heads off like they do in Saudi > > Arabia and like they also do in Iraq. > > it's funny how ppl say that death penalties are brutal > in arab nations but yet never mention the brutality of > the electric chair or lethal injection in the US. it's > as though it's okay in the mighty 'first world' but if > the state mandated murder is enforced in the arab > world whoa, 'stop the presses those nasty arabs > massacred another one.' your language betrays the > bigot in you. > > > Let the wonders > > of a world weak with its own hates and resentments > > give rebirth to itself and let itself and others be. > > To let be and let go. > > as though the 'first world' doesn't harbor hate. you > know if you're going to condemn an act don't limit it > to the 'third world.' that was rushdie's problem in my > eyes. while i support his denounciation of the crime > in nigeria, where was his harsh criticism when king > george denied a death sentence appeal to a retarded > man in texas and promptly sent him the the execution > chamber (and that's just one example)? that's the > problem with these ppl in the media (here it's > rushdie) is that they say 'look how bad nigeria is' > while they sing the praises of the US like the good > little media whores that they are, ignoring all the > while the mounting injustices in their own countries. > the one-sidedness is the problem, and you, eldorra, > just seem to be advancing this notion all over again. > > > Greetings ! I am a Buddhist ! > > I came to share a Light!! > > no one cares. > > you know i really missed your ethereal ramblings on > the list. it's nice to know you'll be bringing back > the entertainment value here. > > gr3g > > ====> > 'every government is a dictatorship. every leader, a tyrant.' -anonymous > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > --- from list postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > --- from list postcolonial-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- Greetings ! I am a Buddhist ! I came to share a Light!! --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals --0-1383698829-1039411326=:83825
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'THE IDF'S ARROGANCE CONCEALS A LACK OF STRATEGY'Collateral damageby MICHEL REVEL *
IN ALL 2,435 Palestinians were killed between September 2000 and August 2002 in the colonial war that Ariel Sharon's government calls self-defence against terrorism; 497 of them were aged under 18 (1). It also left thousands of others permanently handicapped. Yet there is only one proper rehabilitation centre in the entire Gaza Strip, the Al Wafa rehabilitation and health centre, which opened in 1995. It has only 51 beds. The director, Dr Ibrahim Ghazal, showed me some of his patients. What sort of life can Fadi, who is 14, expect? On his way home from school one day in January, he was hit in the head by a bullet fired from a tank. He has been in hospital ever since. Unable to control his muscles, he still cannot sit up properly in a wheelchair. He is also aphasic. He spends most of the day in a rehabilitation room with physiotherapists who are working to reduce the stiffness in his joints. I saw one of them joke with him as he stretched the boy's muscles and attempted to bend his knees. Fadi alternately laughed and winced in pain. What will happen to him later? Will he, like Riad Ali Nasser, have a devoted family to look after him? Riad, now 43, was also hit in the head by a bullet, 12 years ago during the first intifada. He cannot stand, has very limited vision in his left eye, and very poor hearing even with a hearing aid he provided by a charitable organisation. I watch his son, Muhammad, 17, and his wife, Itaf, carry him to his makeshift wheelchair from the cart in which he had travelled to visit his brother. They pushed it up to the table where his daughter, May, served tea for the guest. Zeinab al-Falit is 45 and has 11 children, aged from 6 to 23, the eldest in dialysis. Like most Palestinians, her husband is unemployed. On 8 April, ZeInab was weeding aubergines and tomatoes in her garden when she was hit by three bullets from a tank protecting an Israeli settlement 150 metres away. One bullet traversed her lumbar spinal column. Since then she has been paraplegic. Though her legs have no muscle tone, they may eventually be able to support her over a short distance on flat ground, with heavy braces and crutches. She will be able to urinate only through a catheter, with a permanent risk of infection. She will never work in her garden again. Randa al-Kassir is 38. Her first husband was killed in the first intifada. Her second is unemployed. She has four children, aged 6 to 15. In the Rafah suburb where she lives, she was fired at from a tank on 1 May. A bullet shattered a dorsal vertebra. The muscles of her trunk and lower limbs are permanently paralysed, and she will have difficulty in moving about in a wheelchair. She will always be at risk from urinary infections and bedsores that will regularly put her in hospital. The life of Alam al-Kabta, 23, has also been marred by repeated hospitalisation. He has been a tetraplegic since 23 December 1992, when he went for a walk with his father in the Gaza market. He was hit in the neck by a bullet. Alam was a bright boy who wanted to be an engineer. Now he is dependent on his father and his six brothers and sisters to wash and feed him, and move him from his bed to his wheelchair. Kamal Britka, aged 16, Nassar al-Rizzi, 18, and Yussef Muhammad al-Mansi, 17, were less promising pupils who had planned to look for work farming and building. All three were hit by bullets while walking in the street. Kamal and Nassar are paraplegic, and Yussef a hemiplegic. They will be always have difficult and limited mobility. On 11 February Awad Sifi, 49, a primary school teacher, was sitting at home near a window when he was hit in the neck and lower jaw by a dumdum bullet fired from a tank. He was in a coma for eight weeks. Dr Amee Jameh told me that Awad was known in Jabalia for his helpfulness. Now he is tetraplegic, and still has a tracheostomy tube. His wife and 10 children are impatient for him to return to their badly damaged home. He will need their help for the rest of his life. Wail Joudia, 32, a carpenter, is luckier. On 4 May he was on his way home from Israel, where he worked as a day labourer, when he came under fire from the Netzarim settlement. A complex fracture of his right ankle was operated on in Egypt. After lengthy rehabilitation, Wail will retain only some stiffness and pain in the joint and will probably, although with difficulty, be able to continue working as a carpenter. He will be able to manage to climb scaffolding, but the long walks along steep footpaths that skirt Israeli roadblocks are another matter. It is impossible to say how many of the 40,000 Palestinians (including 8,000 minors) wounded in the second intifada will remain handicapped. Many will have lasting or permanent injuries, and join those handicapped through disease, or as a result of domestic, road and industrial accidents. How are we to evaluate the psychological damage sustained by this population, for whom the terrors and traumas of early childhood have been followed by aggression and humiliation? * Professor of physical medicine and rehabilation in Paris Read: Israel: the army in command (1) According to AFP, 1,842 Palestinians, 604 Israelis and 50 foreigners were killed from the end of September 2000 to 16 September 2002.
Translated by Barry Smerin
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED © 1997-2002 Le Monde diplomatique |
Jaclyn Rosebrook-Collignon <jaclynr-AT-free.fr> wrote:
Yey, Yey... that's finally what I was hoping for. Bravo poco friends!
I just wanted some reiteration of my gut reactions about Rushdie's
politics - media based - as opposed to his literature - that is well known
but not as widely read as the NYT, of course. Yes, yes, Rushdie is a "media
whore" and I really just wanted to hear it from someone else besides my
hysterical inner voice that screams "blasphemy". (and I use that term
loooooosely)
And yes, yes, we should just let it go (on a certain level) because his
literature speaks for itself. We should keep reading or not reading his
books according to our desire. And I should stop looking for "guidance" and
"information" (and I use those terms looosely, as well) when reading
editorials by writers I hold in high esteem. But that is MY error (mea
culpa), I'm still very naive and gullible in spite of my *experience* and I
still look for pearls of wisdom dropping from the mouths of those who
possess the "gift". (You can laugh but I've probably the profile of a
perfect cult recruitee - but knowing it doesn't save me from my "blindness")
Anyway, I digress, and that now brings us to the next step of the argument
in socio-cultural terms and not necessarily geopolitical ones. How did
Rushdie get here from there? Or rather how does his literary writing escape
the the demagogic nature of his "editorial" writing. It is the cleavage
between the two that becomes interesting.
And as Mona so deftly stated <religions and scared and
apologetic when he is afraid (check Imaginary Homelands).>>
And then asks: <>
Excellent question, excellent question! "a treasoness cosmo whore" or "a
free spirituous fleeing saint" (how to mix the two together and without
becoming a viscous serpent sucking on its tail?)... But perhaps the list is
tired of this and would like to get onto other things. I will ponder Mona's
question out here in the desert and if anyone wants to continue on or off
list, I'm all eyes and mind.
Best,
Jaclyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maldoror"
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: salon interview & rushdie
> > It does not matter that Rushdie is a
> > member of the Muslim community
>
> he's not a member. he's a professed athiest.
>
> > A man can be a woman,
>
> really? and how might that occur? do tell.
>
> > State and Church remain
> > seperate and that is the choice of secular
> > societies.
>
> not in the US.
>
> > it (satanic verses) mocks the pompousness of dogma
>
> i'll give you that.
>
> > So why can't
> > Rushdie be a Muslim, because you say so?
>
> hmmm... could it be because he's an athiest which by
> definition believes in no supreme being, whereas a
> muslim believes in god. logic anyone?
>
> > I support a hip atheistic Islam
>
> yeah the one where one minute god exists and the next
> it doesn't. that's hip i suppose... in a delusional,
> drug-induced sort of way.
>
> > all the rest of that crap about
> > cutting peoples heads off like they do in Saudi
> > Arabia and like they also do in Iraq.
>
> it's funny how ppl say that death penalties are brutal
> in arab nations but yet never mention the brutality of
> the electric chair or lethal injection in the US. it's
> as though it's okay in the mighty 'first world' but if
> the state mandated murder is enforced in the arab
> world whoa, 'stop the presses those nasty arabs
> massacred another one.' your language betrays the
> bigot in you.
>
> > Let the wonders
> > of a world weak with its own hates and resentments
> > give rebirth to itself and let itself and others be.
> > To let be and let go.
>
> as though the 'first world' doesn't harbor hate. you
> know if you're going to condemn an act don't limit it
> to the 'third world.' that was rushdie's problem in my
> eyes. while i support his denounciation of the crime
> in nigeria, where was his harsh criticism when king
> george denied a death sentence appeal to a retarded
> man in texas and promptly sent him the the execution
> chamber (and that's just one example)? that's the
> problem with these ppl in the media (here it's
> rushdie) is that they say 'look how bad nigeria is'
> while they sing the praises of the US like the good
> little media whores that they are, ignoring all the
> while the mounting injustices in their own countries.
> the one-sidedness is the problem, and you, eldorra,
> just seem to be advancing this notion all over again.
>
> > Greetings ! I am a Buddhist !
> > I came to share a Light!!
>
> no one cares.
>
> you know i really missed your ethereal ramblings on
> the list. it's nice to know you'll be bringing back
> the entertainment value here.
>
> gr3g
>
> =====
>
> 'every government is a dictatorship. every leader, a tyrant.' -anonymous
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.
> http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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