From: "Ray DaSilva" <dasilva-AT-tesco.net>
Subject: Re: PUPT: Swazzle  P&J
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:17:55 -0000


To Agit Prop Central et al.
One of the keys to successful swazzling lies in the script itself, most
written scripts are too wordy from Payne-Collier onwards. Even some
successful swazzlers go all literary when they come to write their scripts
down on paper.
Glyn Edwards has just written a new book titled "Successful Punch and Judy"
which will probably become the standard practical
work on the subject. Within its 136 pages is a lot of information which
brings Mr P up-to-date, and also a very workable script.  The cost is £9.95
(9.95 British pounds) which converts to approx16.90 US dollars.  The postage
to the US will work out at about 4 dollars.  I cannot say exactly because I
do not get delivery of the books until next week so cannot weigh one.
The Pof A store will probably have copies  available in the New Year.
Meanwhile if you can't wait till then I will be able to send you a copy in a
week's time.

----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Greenspan <greenspan-AT-earthlink.net>
To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: 24 November 1999 03:15
Subject: Re: PUPT: Swazzle P&J


> I would dare say that a significant portion of American Punch Professors
work
> without a swazzle. In England, as I understand it, they do not consider
you a
> "true" punch professor unless you use the swazzle (and stick hitting). The
> really accomplished Punch performers that I have heard, who do use a
swazzle,
> can be understood quite well. Personally, I have never used a swazzle in
my
> shows here in the Greater New York area, since my shows have a lot of fast
> spoken jokes that would not be understood with my poor swazzling skills.
If
> you want to practice with a swazzle, it is pushed up to the roof of your
mouth
> and held by your tongue. It is not held, as you wrote, with "your lips
pursed
> over it". I would agree with Alice and suggest you forget the idea of
> substituting a Kazoo. If you want the swazzle effect then use a swazzle.
HTH!
> Best of Luck with it!
>
> Fred Greenspan
> Traditional Puppeteer
> http://home.earthlink.net/~greenspan/
>
> Agit Prop Central wrote:
>
> > However, I have a question of afficiondoes: when using the swazzle
> > for Punch's voice is one expected to be understood? I haven't got
> > sound on my PC so I can't hear the web file of Punch's voice. The
> > swazzle is fun BUT it isn't articulate. The wonderful Bill Jackson of
> > Willy Wonks in Sydney made it for me and I would not have been able
> > to work it out by my ownsome (despite designs). But where do you put
> > it in your mouth to get the rounded vowells and constanants? I guess
> > that if your lips were pursed over the swazzle the words are formed
> > as in ventriloquism...is that right?
> >
> > Also: what's the feeling about substituting kazoos for swazzles as
> > the kazoos can be sharper with words? I can handle a squeeky falsetto
> > easily -- should I rely on that for Punch and introduce the swazzle
> > during fight and anger sequences? I cannot imagine a Punch figure
> > without a swazzle.
>
>
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