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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 13:44:39 -0700
Subject: PUPT: PUPPETFEST MIDWEST  Details


The registration fee for the PUPPETFEST MIDWEST (July 8 - 13) is $450 which
includes all performances, workshops, special events & room & board Tuesday
dinner through Sunday lunch.
The festival is meant to complement, not compete with other festivals.
There can never be too many good festivals!
The mission of this festival is:
*to promote, encourage and illustrate by example the traditional skills that
are the building blocks of Good Puppet Theatre.
For more info, go to
puppetry.info/pupfestmidwest


--
pupi per tutti  (puppets for all)



http://www.nwpuppet.org

Northwest Puppet Center
9123 - 15th Ave. NE
Seattle, WA 98115

tel:  206 523 2579
fax:  206 523 8078


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> puptcrit-digest       Tuesday, October 1 2002       Volume 01 : Number 1224
> 
> 
> 
> In this issue:
> =============> 
> GAzPuppets-AT-aol.com     Re: PUPT: RE: Marionette donation & Puppet Slam
> Susan VandeWeghe       Re: PUPT: Re: critics
> Jim Maroon             Re: PUPT: Re: PUPPET FEST MIDWEST
> Christopher Hudert     Re: PUPT: Asking for trouble...
> Susan Wall Kronenberg  Re: PUPT: Re: PUPPET FEST MIDWEST
> "Michael Nelson"       PUPT: Re: Favorite stoooopid things
> Mary Robinette Kowal   Re: PUPT: Asking for trouble...
> "will stackman"        PUPT: RE: "Instant" caricature
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:08:08 EDT
> From: GAzPuppets-AT-aol.com
> Subject: Re: PUPT: RE: Marionette donation & Puppet Slam
> 
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> In a message dated 9/30/2002 4:33:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> Mickybeshaw-AT-aol.com writes:
> 
> 
>> 
>>>> Omnipresent Players  "Good Morning, Blaster"
>>> Tommy Cannon & Co. "Trailer Park Zombie"
>>> Tucson Puppet Works "Harvest!  Encounter in the Heartland"
>>> Rude Rabbit Productions "Miracle Monkey
>>> Greg Williams  "Mr. Fabulous"
>>> 
>> 
>> Wow, I grew up in Arizona, Scottsdale to be exact and I'm so glad and
>> excited to see such great things happening there.  Will be visiting Oct. 16
>> - 24, and would love to see your work.
>> 
>> Michelle 
> 
> Too bad you won't be here for the Puppet Slam.  We'll have TROUBLE AT HAUNTED
> MOUNTAIN on at the theater then, so please come by.  And we'll undoubtedly
> still have some very funky puppets for sale.  Our website is azpuppets.org.
> 
> Everybody come see us!  And bring cash!  And credit cards!
> 
> Nancy Smith
> Great Arizona Puppets
> 
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> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial"
> LANG="0">In a message dated 9/30/2002 4:33:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> Mickybeshaw-AT-aol.com writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
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> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Omnipresent Players  "Good Morning,
> Blaster"<BR>
> Tommy Cannon & Co. "Trailer Park Zombie"<BR>
> Tucson Puppet Works "Harvest!  Encounter in the Heartland"<BR>
> Rude Rabbit Productions "Miracle Monkey<BR>
> Greg Williams  "Mr. Fabulous"<BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3
> FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
> FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
> Wow, I grew up in Arizona, Scottsdale to be exact and I'm so glad and excited
> to see such great things happening there.  Will be visiting Oct. 16 - 24,
> and would love to see your work.  <BR>
> <BR>
> Michelle</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3
> FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> <BR>
> </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
> FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Too bad you won't be here for the
> Puppet Slam.  We'll have TROUBLE AT HAUNTED MOUNTAIN on at the theater
> then, so please come by.  And we'll undoubtedly still have some very
> funky puppets for sale.  Our website is azpuppets.org.<BR>
> <BR>
> Everybody come see us!  And bring cash!  And credit cards!<BR>
> <BR>
> Nancy Smith<BR>
> Great Arizona Puppets</FONT></HTML>
> 
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> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:49:49 -0400
> From: Susan VandeWeghe <vanpuppet-AT-citcom.net>
> Subject: Re: PUPT: Re: critics
> 
> Thank you Mary.  that was my out right laugh for the day.
> 
> Susan
> 
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mary Robinette Kowal" <mary-AT-otherhandproductions.com>
> To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 2:24 AM
> Subject: Re: PUPT: Re: critics
> 
> 
>> Oh let's veer off on a tangent.  How about favorite stupid things the
>> contacts say.
>> 
>> For instance:
>> We arrived at a school who's stage was too small to put our set up on.
>> So we asked if we could set up at the opposite end of the room.  The
>> contact agreed and then said, "Now, we normally have the children facing
>> this way " she pointed to their stage, "Do you think it would be better
>> if they faced the other way?"
>> 
>> Evy Berman wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that my favorite objection to one of our shows was from
>>> a mom wanting to book a birthday party. While pitching "Frog &
>>> Jenny" (target audience - preschoolers thru age 8, perhaps the
>>> most non-offensive show ever built but still stomachable by
>>> adults) I told her that Jenny, bored with waiting for a fish at
>>> her fishing hole, pretends that it is a magic fishing hole. The
>>> kids then get to say the magic words with Jenny and help her
>>> fish for what they wish for. The parent was concerned that it
>>> would teach her kids that magic/dark arts was acceptable and did
>>> not book the show. In her defense, it went against their
>>> religion. In my defense, I didn't cut the magic fishing hole.
>>> 
>>> Oh, and incidentally, I also lost a booking once because the
>>> parent thought that the concept of "Frog & Jenny" would be above
>>> her three-year-old's head. Oh, how I pity that child. To think
>>> that in high school she'll still be pinning notes to his chest
>>> to remind him to return his library books. (MY mom only had to
>>> do that until I was seven, but then I was a prodigy.)
>>> 
>>> -Evy
>>> 
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>> --
>> Mary Robinette Kowal
>> Other Hand Productions
>> http://www.otherhandproductions.com
>> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:04:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jim Maroon <jamesmaroon-AT-yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: PUPT: Re: PUPPET FEST MIDWEST
> 
> What? I thought National was around the week of July
> 20th or something.
> 
> - --Jim Maroon
> 
> - --- Susan Wall Kronenberg <susan-AT-carouselpuppets.com>
> wrote:
>> You don't say how much this costs.  Can you give
>> more details?  I see that
>> it's the week after the National Fest in Tallaqua.
>> Any reason it was
>> scheduled so close?  Not that I'm complaining.
>> Since the Tallaqua Festival
>> is over the 4th of July holiday, I would be losing a
>> lot of business if I
>> went then.  The week after may be do-able.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Susan
>> 
>> 
>> At 12:00 PM 9/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>> PUPPET FEST MIDWEST
>>> July 8 - 13, 2003
>>> Trenton Missouri
>>> 
>>> Join some of the top professional puppeteers of
>> America in a small, intimate
>>> festival held at North Central Missouri College, a
>> small college in the
>>> small town of Trenton Missouri.  Only 99 spaces
>> left!  Performers & workshop
>>> leaders so far include: Coad Canada Puppets, Paul
>> Mesner Puppets, The Huber
>>> Marionettes, Carter Family Marionettes, Grey Seal
>> Puppets, Alan Cook, Robert
>>> Burn's Toy Theatre, Pix Smith of Dallas Puppet
>> Theatre, Lynne Jennings, Nick
>>> Barone & Rose Sage Barone.
>>> 
>>> Festival registration includes:
>>> *10 mainstage performances
>>> *Assorted "openstage" events, lectures &
>> mini-performances
>>> *Puppet Exhibit
>>> *Choice of one of six 12 hour work-throughs
>>> *Room & Board
>>> 
>>> To register or for more info contact Festival
>> Directors:
>>> Peter Allen & Debbie Lutsky
>>> puppetry.info/pupfestmidwest
>>> --
>>> pupi per tutti  (puppets for all)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.nwpuppet.org
>>> 
>>> Northwest Puppet Center
>>> 9123 - 15th Ave. NE
>>> Seattle, WA 98115
>>> 
>>> tel:  206 523 2579
>>> fax:  206 523 8078
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 02:29:31 -0400
> From: Christopher Hudert <heyhoot-AT-mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: PUPT: Asking for trouble...
> 
> on 9/28/02 3:40 AM, Mary Robinette Kowal at mary-AT-otherhandproductions.com
> wrote:
> 
>> I'll probably regret this, but- I need a puppet head of me.  We've got a
>> version of "Pinocchio" in which I play the Blue Fairy as an actor.  At
>> one point in the show Pinocchio carves a puppet of the Blue Fairy.  I
>> hate the thing I've made.
>> 
>> So- what I'm looking for is someone who can match the style of the rest
>> of the puppets in the show AND stylize my face to match.  I only need
>> the head.  Photos of the show are at
>> http://www.otherhandproductions.com/pinocchio.
>> 
>> If you are remotely interested e-mail me off-list and we'll talk.  If
>> you'd like to mock me for being unable to sculpt myself then use the
>> public forum.  This has got to be good for some humor.
>> 
>> Mary
> 
> Hi Mary,
> Went to the link but got a "File not found" notice. I'll try later, but in
> the mean time, have you concidered casting your face and then reducing the
> cast to the size you need? I am not sure exactly how the reduction is done,
> (I think mulitple successive castings) but you would do the first cast in
> algenate (spelling?) to get a true cast of your face. Perhaps someone else
> here could illuminate the method of reduction. I saw this at a Ren Faire
> where they made "exact replicas" dolls of you - well, actually your face on
> a doll. The artist was, shall we say, less than sharing in her method of
> reducing the original down to the doll size, but I was not sure if this was
> because she tired of trying to explain it to the average layman who couldn't
> understand the techniques and materials or if she was trying to protect a
> "secret" method.
> As for sculpting youself, I've heard the gym was a good place to start but
> I've never found any artist material there. Model material maybe, but not
> any sculpting tools and such. Guess you have to bring your own.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
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> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 07:27:56 -0400
> From: Susan Wall Kronenberg <susan-AT-carouselpuppets.com>
> Subject: Re: PUPT: Re: PUPPET FEST MIDWEST
> 
> The National is early this time ... June 29 - July 5
> 
> Susan
> 
> At 07:04 PM 9/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> 
>> What? I thought National was around the week of July
>> 20th or something.
>> 
>> --Jim Maroon
>> 
>> --- Susan Wall Kronenberg <susan-AT-carouselpuppets.com>
>> wrote:
>>> You don't say how much this costs.  Can you give
>>> more details?  I see that
>>> it's the week after the National Fest in Tallaqua.
>>> Any reason it was
>>> scheduled so close?  Not that I'm complaining.
>>> Since the Tallaqua Festival
>>> is over the 4th of July holiday, I would be losing a
>>> lot of business if I
>>> went then.  The week after may be do-able.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Susan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 12:00 PM 9/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>>> PUPPET FEST MIDWEST
>>>> July 8 - 13, 2003
>>>> Trenton Missouri
>>>> 
>>>> Join some of the top professional puppeteers of
>>> America in a small, intimate
>>>> festival held at North Central Missouri College, a
>>> small college in the
>>>> small town of Trenton Missouri.  Only 99 spaces
>>> left!  Performers & workshop
>>>> leaders so far include: Coad Canada Puppets, Paul
>>> Mesner Puppets, The Huber
>>>> Marionettes, Carter Family Marionettes, Grey Seal
>>> Puppets, Alan Cook, Robert
>>>> Burn's Toy Theatre, Pix Smith of Dallas Puppet
>>> Theatre, Lynne Jennings, Nick
>>>> Barone & Rose Sage Barone.
>>>> 
>>>> Festival registration includes:
>>>> *10 mainstage performances
>>>> *Assorted "openstage" events, lectures &
>>> mini-performances
>>>> *Puppet Exhibit
>>>> *Choice of one of six 12 hour work-throughs
>>>> *Room & Board
>>>> 
>>>> To register or for more info contact Festival
>>> Directors:
>>>> Peter Allen & Debbie Lutsky
>>>> puppetry.info/pupfestmidwest
>>>> --
>>>> pupi per tutti  (puppets for all)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.nwpuppet.org
>>>> 
>>>> Northwest Puppet Center
>>>> 9123 - 15th Ave. NE
>>>> Seattle, WA 98115
>>>> 
>>>> tel:  206 523 2579
>>>> fax:  206 523 8078
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:50:28 -0700
> From: "Michael Nelson" <mnelson-AT-i-cafe.net>
> Subject: PUPT: Re: Favorite stoooopid things
> 
> Responding to Tim Guigni's tall stage post:
> Tim,
> At least the principal had READ your contract and was trying to comply
> (although not using the common sense that he should have had).  We used to
> say in our contract that we needed a space 24 feet wide, 20 feet deep and 12
> feet in height.  After a handful of calls from people informing us that
> their stage was only 3 feet tall, not the 12 we requested, we changed the
> wording in the contract to indicate that the 12 feet is for ceiling height
> (not the height of the stage off of the floor).  However, judging by the
> lack of response to our other tech requests, I suspect that a large majority
> of people signing our contracts don't read the tech stuff at all, anyway.
> We are thankful for those that actually call to check and see if we can work
> with a 3 foot stage, etc.  And that the principal in your story was willing
> to actually build you the stage is amazing and shows that he is truly a
> dedicated administrator (and probably should be in government.)
> All the best, Michael Nelson
> 
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Giugni" <octorilla-AT-yahoo.com>
> To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 12:20 PM
> Subject: PUPT: Favorite stoooopid things
> 
> 
>> Here's my fave.
>> Last show of the year.School. We've done over 230
>> shows. We are tired. Our show is exactly 10 X 10 X 10
>> in size, not counting the light poles or the
>> speakers.We walk in to the space with the principal.
>> He points to where we will be performing.
>> 
>> Odd, there is a huge square block (12 long x 10 wide x
>> 11 high) in our performance area.
>> 
>> We are informed that the block is our stage.
>> "We won't fit".
>> "You said you'll fit on a 10x10 space".
>> "Yes, but not 10 feet up in the air".
>> Principal will not hear us when we say it is dangerous
>> and that the kids will not be able to see. No amount
>> of coaxing will consol him. Ex-army.
>> 
>> My partner is fuming. I'm not too happy, but it's the
>> last show. We've got medical (and dental) and I think
>> that a lawsuit will prove that we were in the right to
>> say that the stage was dangerous if it kills any
>> children on its plummet to the ground.
>> 
>> We do the show. The stage shakes as if the entire
>> structure will fall.
>> 
>> Some how no one dies. We pack up.
>> The principal, "See, I told you you would fit".
>> Partner one step away from killing this man (it's what
>> I prized in her, this open hostility). I see red and
>> just stop. Principal turns and goes. They get REALLY
>> bad marks in the touring journal.We go home.
>> The story becomes myth and stuff of legend.
>> Tim
>> In my Tears of Joy Days.
>> Next week: We are Pelted with Rocks at an Elementary
>> School.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 09:54:12 -0700
> From: Mary Robinette Kowal <mary-AT-otherhandproductions.com>
> Subject: Re: PUPT: Asking for trouble...
> 
> Hi Christopher,
> 
> I foolishly left the ".html" off the end, so- if you go to
> http://www.otherhandproductions.com/pinocchio.html
> you should have better luck.
> 
> I actually don't want an exact replica- that I could sculpt.  I can't
> seem to do a caricature of myself that is attractive and in keeping with
> the style of the other puppets.
> 
> Mary
> 
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> 
> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 16:01:10 -0400
> From: "will stackman" <profwill66-AT-hotmail.com>
> Subject: PUPT: RE: "Instant" caricature
> 
> To get your face on a puppet, which will probably be enough of a caricature.
> 1) Sculpt a neutral head to match the show.  Emphasize whatever features you
> want to make prominent - noses and chins are popular.  Make a carveable
> plaster copy ie mix vermiculite or some other filler into the plaster.
> 
> 2) Get two slides of yourself, head-on and profile, mug shot style.
> 
> 3) Project these onto the neutral head and sketch in the details. You'll
> have to move the head areound unless you made a scale model of yourself.
> Tilting the projector will create distortions if necessary.
> 
> 4) Carve away the appropriate areas.  You can build up other areas with
> Model Magic, Paper Clay or whatever.
> 
> 5) Make a negative mold from the finished sculpture and cast the puppet
> head.
> 
> 6) Paint and wig the result to match whatever you use in the show.
> 
> Haveb't used this for anyone's face but it works for duplicating set props.
> 
> MasterWill.blogspot.com
> "That's the way to do it!"
> 
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