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Subject: Re: PUPT: Re: music rights?
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:39:47 +0100


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My!!! you have it easy in the US if Dave is right. 
Over here in the UK when I was in business we had three organisations to deal with.  Performing Rights Society, Phonographic Performance Ltd, and Mechanical Protection Copyright Society.  They covered the rights of composers, recording companies and artists.  When playing in theatres, the venue covered the tab for Performing Rights Society but we had to give them a list of pieces played so that they could enter it on their monthly return. 
We tried to get round all this hassle by having our music specially composed and recorded, which was a one-off payment although we paid the composer a small royalty per performance.  The problem arose when we played the Sunderland Empire which had a resident orchestra.  The Musicians Union said they had to be employed to sit in the orchestra pit and do nothing.  We took advantage of them and asked them to play some "coming in music" and allso entracte. " Those were the days my friend"
Ray
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dave Allen
  To: Puptcrit
  Sent: 10 October 2002 19:15
  Subject: PUPT: Re: music rights?


  This has been covered on several of the list I belong to over the years. For the most part the entertainer is not responible for the fees. If you are in a private home there are no fees. If you are in a public venue such as a festival, bar etc. They are the ones who are suppouse to have the permit covered if not venue are the ones who they will go after not you.


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Linda Geiger
    Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:50 PM
    To: puptcrit-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
    Subject: PUPT: music rights?

    What's the protocol for using copyrighted music in puppet shows? I'm referring to
    popular tunes, rock 'n' roll, show tunes, nursery rhyme-type music, etc. Someone told
    me if you use it in a performance that charges no admission (libraries, festivals) you
    don't have to pay for the right to use the music.

    Any experiences out there? Or know where I can find out??

    Linda in Cocoa Beach



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My!!! you have it easy in the US if Dave is right. 
Over here in the UK when I was in business we had three organisations to deal with.  Performing Rights Society, Phonographic Performance Ltd, and Mechanical Protection Copyright Society.  They covered the rights of composers, recording companies and artists.  When playing in theatres, the venue covered the tab for Performing Rights Society but we had to give them a list of pieces played so that they could enter it on their monthly return. 
We tried to get round all this hassle by having our music specially composed and recorded, which was a one-off payment although we paid the composer a small royalty per performance.  The problem arose when we played the Sunderland Empire which had a resident orchestra.  The Musicians Union said they had to be employed to sit in the orchestra pit and do nothing.  We took advantage of them and asked them to play some "coming in music" and allso entracte. " Those were the days my friend"
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Allen
To: Puptcrit
Sent: 10 October 2002 19:15
Subject: PUPT: Re: music rights?

This has been covered on several of the list I belong to over the years. For the most part the entertainer is not responible for the fees. If you are in a private home there are no fees. If you are in a public venue such as a festival, bar etc. They are the ones who are suppouse to have the permit covered if not venue are the ones who they will go after not you.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda Geiger
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:50 PM
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
Subject: PUPT: music rights?
 
What's the protocol for using copyrighted music in puppet shows? I'm referring to
popular tunes, rock 'n' roll, show tunes, nursery rhyme-type music, etc. Someone told
me if you use it in a performance that charges no admission (libraries, festivals) you
don't have to pay for the right to use the music.

Any experiences out there? Or know where I can find out??

Linda in Cocoa Beach



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