Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 01:20:47 +1000 From: mmcmahon-AT-extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Melissa McMahon) Subject: Re: Montage? >There are levels and operations. Ok, I don't see this distinction, because I see the levels as _defined_ operationally (functionally) - they _are_ an operation. This also suggests to me that 'movement' in the form of an operation is 'added' to the levels from the outside, whereas I see this as the crux of what Bergson identifies as the illuson of movement: the idea that it is constituted of immobile cuts 'to which' movement is added. Deleuze says that while this is the technical operation of projecting a film reel, this artifice of the conditions is corrected in the result: what we are 'given' is not an image to which movement is added, but the movement-image. The immobile cuts re-emerge once the autonomy of the mobile section is established as simply its 'parts', but 'part' has now taken on a different sense. Me and Malgosia had a big discussion on this issue early on in the piece. >The first level is the immobile >section--the frame. As such, it's really impossible to speak of it in terms >of >"objects," since only some operation (mobility, montage, or interpretation) >can >create and relate objects--reveal the frame's dividuality. The second level >is >movement--the shot. Again, though, a further operation is needed to free the >shot from Bergson's criticisms--to open the closed set, however finely. The >whole is an arrangement of movements (of shots) which releases a somewhat >indeterminate spirit (for if spirit were, or could be, circumscribed, >Bergson's >critique would still hold). In the first chapter, where Deleuze is explaining the different levels, he uses the example of scenarios between A and B, Achilles and the Tortoise, the spoon and the glass etc. It is clear that these are the 'parts' between which the movement takes place, and occupy the first level. I also do not see how the frame can be defined as the first level, the immobile cut, when he begins the chapter on framing by saying that the frame is the determination of the 'relatively closed system', which from the first chapter we can identify as the 'ensemble', the second level (but maybe you mean the reel frame?). And to identify the whole as an 'arrangement of shots' seems to me to confuse the 'whole' with a _totality_, which it is defined against in the first chapter. A totality, like an arrangement of shots, can be given, the whole cannot, by definition, it is what prevents the relatively closed system from becoming absolutely closed, ie from becoming a totality. In any case, one of the first examples that Deleuze uses to _explain_ the concept of the whole is of a single shot (I think it was Hitchcock, the camera that follows the woman into the room, then reverses and mounts to the window from the outside). I don't see that any effort is required to 'release' the whole given that it is just one of any movement's faces, namely, the qualitative change that it expresses, which is not localised in space but the image of time that it yields, and yields necessarily. To argue for the immanence of movement, which is the problem of the first chapter, and the problem of the movement-image as a whole (as that to which movement is immanent, not added) is for me to argue for its autonomy and self-sufficency, which ceaselessly, and of its own nature, both divides itself into the parts between which it translated, and unites itself into the whole it expresses. In this sense it is the 'second' level, the mobile section which really comes first (and in this sense I agree that the 'shot', as most immediate dimension of film, is most happily understood as the second level), the other two levels being its two 'faces'. But anyway, I'm going on... to bed! - Melissa --- from list seminar-10-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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