File spoon-archives/seminar-13.archive/cyberfem_1998-2000/seminar-13.9812, message 2


Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:35:11 -0500 (EST)
From: cyberdiva <radhik-AT-dad.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Lurkers (LONG) (fwd)



http://slashdot.org/features/98/12/28/1745252.shtml

Luring the Lurkers
Posted by JonKatz on Tuesday December 29, -AT-09:39AM
from the Come-out,-Come-Out... dept.

Lurkers are aone of the Net's biggest
disenfranchised groups, unseen or heard. Although there are many more
Lurkers than posters by far on sites like this, they get almost none of
the attention. This distorts agendas and skews perceptions. As newcomers
come onto the Web in record numbers, Lurking is growing -- you should
see my e-mail. So are the reasons for websites to take Lurkers more
seriously and get them to come out. (CT:I like this one a lot. In many
ways it could be about my mail too. Check it out)

Lurkers are the biggest single disenfranchised group on the Net and the Web.
Even though there are far more Lurkers than participants in most websites that
permit posting and open discussions, they are invisible, sometimes
counted but almost never seen or heard.

E-mail from Lurkers is so jarringly different in tone and content
than public topic postings that
they seems to exist in a parallel universe. In some ways, they do.

A recent survey by a computer consulting firm in Chicago found that 98 per
cent of the visitors to large sites with open forums - from AOL and MSN
to sites like Slashdot - never submit ideas or articles and never post
opinions or participate in arguments.

In my own case, I get anywhere between 100 and 500 e-mails per column,
and I'd guess that 98 per cent
of it comes from people who never post in public topics - a stunning
statistic in an intensely interactive medium like this one. As a result,
the agenda is often set by the smallest, not the largest, group of
Netizens, and so is the tone and style of public discussion. Although
the public discussions on Slashdot and other websites are often raucous
and hostile, e-mail from Lurkers almost never is. Lurker e-mail can be
plenty critical and challenging, but the style and tone of people who
communicate one on one is radically different from postings on public
forums, often dominated by hostile, frequently anonymous, mostly young,
overwhelmingly male messagers. For better or worse, flaming is an
adolescent geek rite of passage. It will never go away, and shouldn't.
Free sites tolerate even obnoxious speech.

Since writing for Slashdot, I've been counting e-mail. Writing about the
difficulties of learning
Linux, I got more than 1,000 posts in a single week following two
columns about how difficult the process was. The overwhelming majority
of these posts - 75 per cent - were from people offering help, advice,
experience. During that same week, somewhere between 75 and 100 public
posts criticized my writing - length, style and content - suggested I
shouldn't be here or should be run off. The difference was jarring.

Many of the Lurkers writing me were people who believed I was under
continuous and vicious assault because they read the public postings
beneath my columns. When I wrote back to say that the response to my
writing on Slashdot was overwhelmingly, and from the first, appreciative
and generous, and that reading e-mail here was a treat because it was
both nice and smart, many people are incredulous.

"I am amazed to hear that you're not continuously under fire," wrote
James, a Dayton, Ohio
school teacher and father of two who is trying to prepare a class on the
politics of OSS but who is uncomfortable about posting after reading
some of the uglier flames. "I would have told my class that they were
lynching you there."

The point isn't that my writing is or isn't popular, but that perception
is so easily skewed and distorted. Most of
the people reading, visiting, coming onto the site are never heard from,
while a handful of people who post are seen as presenting a dominant
voice that is often quite marginal, if equally valid.

Perhaps the most common introduction to e-mail messages that people
ike me receive,
usually in these exact words is: "I don't always agree with you, and I
never post comments publicly?" I see this so often I sometimes think
it's a heading. Of course, online columnists, writers and posters don't
write for agreement. If everybody agreed with me, nobody would have any
reason at all to read me. Online, columnists are conversation-starters,
not finishers. They don't need to be right, or even to be convinced that
they are, just to believe they are correct at the moment they write, and
willing to change their minds if the feedback warrants.

The schism between people who post and those who don't is a significant
issue for
public websites for all sorts of reasons, ranging from the commercial to
free speech.

Obviously people who lurk are less likely to register, join
or support sites. If they're not comfortable enough to join in
collective discussions, why would they stick around and learn the
complexities of Linux?

This enormous disparity between huge numbers of Lurkers and small numbers
of public posters skews agendas, distorts
arguments, and, worst of all, drives away countless potential
contributors. So many Lurkers say in e-mail that they are uncomfortable
with the tone and hostility of public forums (this was true on Hotwired
from the first) that it increasingly becomes a free speech issue. If
government or corporations drove away or silenced as many people as
flamers do, Net Libertarians would be rushing to the barricades.

In a culture whose most shared common ideology is the free movement of ideas
and information, who exactly fights for or protects the increasingly
large numbers of people who are afraid to speak at all?

"I am afraid to post because the incredible arrogance and hostility
among some people on
sites like this," Julia e-mailed me two weeks ago. "I'd like to learn
Linux, but I don't get the feeling that these people would help me. They
would just make me feel stupid." When I told her that I'd received
literally hundreds of offers of help from members of Slashdot, including
a dozen who invited me to their homes or volunteered to come to mine,
she didn't believe me.

Lurkers are often either technologically advanced - "I'm a Webmaster in
Austin," wrote Jim, who disagreed with a column I
wrote about digital democracy, "and I'm sorry to add to your e-mail, but
I just don't have time to trade insults with teenagers," or
technologically challenged - "I would never dream of posting this
message on Slashdot," "messaged Ann, a Web designer in New York City. "I
might say something wrong..."

Newcomers to the Net often e-mail, just to see if anybody's really on the
other end, but they wouldn't dream of
posting because they feel they don't understand the language or rituals
here. Foreigners are reluctant to post publicly, because they don't feel
confident enough about their command of English to argue issues. Many
women and elderly people often browse sites like this but frequently
write that they find much of the content interesting, but have never
posted publicly because they don't go online to argue.

Online, Lurkers are a culture all their own. They can cruise from site
to site in
peaceful anonymity, picking up perspective, information and insight,
even though they rarely seem to light permanently.

E-mail from Lurkers is useful and entertaining. It includes personal
experience, books and
articles read, jokes and recommendations to browse other sites they've
lurked. One lurker even guided me a Lurkers anonymous list (he made me
promise to keep it a secret) where 200 Lurkers on ICQ chat gather
nightly to talk about the sites they've lurked, and the information
they've picked up. One of their favorite topics is the verbal violence
of online discussions. It's impossible to generalize about Lurkers, but
in the past five years writing for several different websites, I've
asked many of them what it would take to get them to come out, stay on a
site and publicly post their messages - the lurker posts about digital
democracy in the past few weeks were astonishing, and included teachers,
academics, voters, public policy geeks, political aides and journalists,
most of whom were uncomfortable posting in the open message areas. But
their discomfort with public posting is a loss. Their messages shouldn't
be stuck in my e-mail queue, but posted publicly so everybody could have
read them, talked about them, even argued about them.

About a third of the Lurkers say they just prefer Lurking, that it gives
them the best of
the Web, which is access to thousands of interesting sites, while
by-passing the worst, personal insults and abuse, and what one Web
designer called "the raging head-butting of the clueless against the
self-righteous. I'll post online when people can disagree without
name-calling. Probably not in this life."

One software developer e-mailed last week that "I see that there are many
intelligent comments
posted on sites like Slashdot, and I feel for the people trying to have
rational discussions. But where else in the world would you go out of
your way to have anonymous people call you offensive names in public?"

Of the Lurkers who say they would love to post messages on public topics
and sites, they almost all say it would take several things to get them
to feel comfortable: no anonymous postings, moderated discussions, a ban
on personal insults. "People should take responsibility for their words
by putting their name on them," e-mailed Richard H, a graphic designer
in Toronto. "If they won't do that, why should I listen to them?"

But efforts to sanitize public discussion areas are complex. Flaming has a
tradition and value all it's own. It's a great leveler. Flamers often
make thoughtful points even when they don't mean to. They helps prevent
a few single voices from dominating sites and discussions as they do in
mainstream journalism. If nothing else, public roasting keeps the
writer's ego under control. And makes it clear that there are lots of
different points of view. If flaming shouldn't be taken too seriously,
it shouldn't be dismissed as pointless either.

One of the best things about the Web, as many Lurkers point out, is, in fact,
one of the worst
- a tolerance for open discussion that makes the Internet the freest
culture in the world. For me, this is a fair trade-off.

But that doesn't mean Lurkers can't be lured out.

My own vote? Sites like Slashdot should offer special welcome areas for
Lurkers,
newcomers and newbies, not to
mention immigrants, the elderly, the technically challenged or the shy.
I can testify from personal experience that there are hundreds of people
on this site who would be happy to help if they were asked, and would
warmly greet newcomers.

Established sites like the Well have long provided moderated areas where
people can identify themselves, be
welcomed, and ask questions about the site, and the different topics and
discussion areas. There is no debate or arguments on welcome sites,
simply the chance for people to say who they are, why they're here, and
what they are interested in, and for the site - usually volunteers -- to
help guide them.

The ideal world for truly interactive websites would be
for the flamers and head-butters to have at it freely and without
restriction, but for the growing numbers of online Lurkers to
participate. It's hard to see who would lose in an environment like
that.

For Open Source Software sites like this one, this is even more
important, since it is in the interest of OSS and free software
advocates to spread the message as well as the software that there is a
booming new alternative to the greedy and increasingly censorious
companies - Microsoft, Disney, AOL - that are seeking to dominate the
commercial and cultural life of the Internet. Sooner or later, the
Lurkers will light. When they do, it ought to be here, and on places
like this, and not on Disney's Go.com.

You can e-mail me at jonkatz-AT-bellatlantic.net

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