Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:15:57 -0800 (PST) From: Victor Rosado <skygoya-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Actually it's potential/real, actual, experience Dear List: Viren writes: 1. The realm of experience, 2. > the realm of > actualization of laws as events and 3. the realm of > laws. Could one > say that we experience laws indirectly through the > events in which they > are actualized? > I think yes. Doesn't Bhaskar say the real seeps into experience and the realm of the actual??? Can someone give an example of a law that goes into (indirectly) each of the realms? Can someone again clarify what Bhaskar means by law vs. traditional science's law? -------experience, actual,real I was thinking of the general tendency of the rate of profit to fall. My experience may tell me that we are living in a "boom economy" and if people keep spending, etc. everything will be just fine (i heard that on the news... also people shouldn't be scared away by all the recession-speak generated by the media). As a social scientist/economist, i may have data that shows that the rate of profit does fall but that it also rises. As a critical realist/ marxist, however, i may look at the totality and see that at the expense of human suffering at many levels, war, etc. the tendency is diverted by shunting/displacing the problem to other levels (is this an actual analysis?why? because i am 'absenting' other things do figure out the base/basic levels). But (in the realm of the real), the tendency of the rate of profit to fall remains at the core of the capitalist system and remains one of its chief contradictions. There is lot of "interference" (to use Viren's word), however, that hides this ontological fact (or law) from me. Few people know of this problem and traditional econ courses and programs ignore it (am i right Hans?). What do you guys think? -Victor __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --- from list seminar-14-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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