From: antonsen-AT-alf.nbi.dk Subject: Re: Revolting Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 11:46:04 +0200 Hi William, Thanks for your reply/questions/comments: I wish I could write just as clearly! First a minor point, just to clarify the role played by our various culrural-historical backgrounds (not just you and me, but all of us). As you probably know, many things which are "underground" in the US is "above" ground in Scandinavia, SM is one of them, as is homosexuality. In fact we have an annual "Fetisch-party", homosexuals can get married (or registered as partners, which legally is the same thing) and SM is quite well-known and widely practised, at least in its milder form of bondage. SM (as most other aspects of sexuality) is a kind of game, entered into freely by the participants, with the aim of gaining pleasure for all of them (the masochist aswell as the sadist). Therefore whatever takes place during such an act it is certainly NOT "wrong", even though whipping and locking up other people in other contexts definitely IS. The key point here is the mutual consent. This is the one rule which is NOT broken: only the "rules" imposed by a society scared of the body are dropped. Only in the most alienated of humans is pleasure restricted to the genitals, for more healthy persons the entire body is erotic, and anything the body can do can become erotic, stimulating. "Everything human is good" as the Danish surrealist poet Gustaf Munch Petersen who died in the Spanish Civil War wrote, and Blake just as easily could have written. It is this restriction of sexuality to the genitals (and to the missionary position.... is it, by the way, correct that in some states in the US, oral sex is a crime?), this fear of the body, which underlies all religions and all authoritarian systems. The fundamental human desire is one for "unity" in some sense (the creation of libidinoes ties with reality), the original "polymorpheous pervert" of Freud, and thus there are no limits to human eroticism. I'm afraid I didn't write this very clearly, but I hope you get the drift. Basically I do not "believe" in the existence of perversions: they are only acts which the governing "morality" cannot accept, because they violates its underlying assumptions (its christian-capitalist-patriachal etc. foundation). In a TRUE morality, i.e. one based on reality, on our desires and not on some metaphysical fiction, they would all be accepted. As far as pornography is concerned: I'm not really against it. What gave you that idea? What I dislike is turning sexuality into a commodity, i.e. trying to absorb into the existing pathetic society instead of using it as a means to transform the world. For Sade: I like "the divine marquis", but a world created by him would be very boring, because of his (for my taste at least) too pedantic nature! A world in which desire is liberated, on the other hand, aaah that would be true paradise!! To me: actually living another position, action, is the only truely valid position, so you have no disagreement there on my part either. Frank
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