From: Celinec-AT-aol.com
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:42:03 -0400
Subject: themiracleofmindoutoffartingfl  


Alan:

>>[the body? what is that? I don't buy it] -- or words to that
>>effect

>>-- celine

>Celine! A poetic voice is heard above the rabble! 
>Yet how soon that sweet voice does turn to a sour whine,
>joining the pandemonium of rants and raves that make up
>this list of late! Oh, fain!

Actually I did not write this, or anything close. I believe this
was part of a response by Pierre, which if you followed it went
much deeper than what you read. 

What I did say is quite the opposite. I suggested that most of
the population is schizophrenic in their philosophies to separate
mind, body and spirit.

>   Ah! I wax poetic in the vary attempt to speak!
>Actually, I might suggest that the body, so-called, 
>   is not only a reality, but the primary one.  
>How else can the sweet fragrance of the lotus rise --
>   out of the muddy puddle?
>How else the sheer miracle of mind arise -- 
>   out of the farting flesh?

>What we can agree to question is the unquestioned assumption
>   that "body" exists somehow separate from mind or spirit.
>Or the assumption that we can fix the shifting apparition --
>   apparent to our senses, a mere phenomenon --
>As if it were some actuality, substantial thing --
>   Ah! bad faith! --
>Like the book lying on the table

>All things, indeed, are vibrant to the core,
>   whether stone or flesh, cold metal or throbbing vine,
>rancid ichor or vaulting flame,
>   corruscation of light, or the glimmering dark
>protuberant vessicles, or withdrawing mind...

>Yea, verily verily I say unto you,
>This IS my "body" -- take, eat -- and drink of my blood
>that we may be in the kingdom of God,
>which IS AT HAND!

>[etc.]

>"Zounds! I was never so bethumped with words!"

>alang-AT-creative.net

I don't know if you are making fun of my attempt to bring these
conversations into a more creative realm, but I do think it would
free you all up a little. This knitpicking (and especially the
above example of inaccurate knitpicking) takes you nowhere. 

My appearance on this list was an attempt to call the imagination
into play. If this threatens you, as the above attack seems to
indicate, I think you need to examine your fears.

Celine