File spoon-archives/surrealist.archive/surrealist_1996/96-10-27.153, message 112


Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 13:34:28 GMT
From: anacmar-AT-mail.telepac.pt (Carlos Martins)
Subject: Re: Re[2]: (Fwd) Child XXX - think other  media as well


i totally agree with what Jean Jacques suggested as a
good way to express a surrealist position about the matter.

>From my side i will sign a sinthesis that make clear the political
side of the question and not only poetical or just hidden behind a game.
If there is an histeria around the matter makes no sense we
as surrealists just define our position poetically concerning a matter that
is fondamentally social and political.
I personally have no doubts that this have nothing to do with our
principles in defense of freedom of expression and especifically the
liberation of desire (and even if the frontiers between eroticism and
pornography are not always so clear, we all know that we denied any forms of
exploration and manipulation of the others will, on sexual  or either any
other matters. Child pornography and slavery deal
with real people and is an imposition against the others will, totally opposed
to our concept of libertation of desire and our interest by eroticism and even
pornography.

There isn`t any poetical thing on the fact one be promoting child
pornography and by other side it`s unfortunately real that there are children
raped and murdered by those hands and minds that are using "freedom of
expression" to promote another moralism, a kind of moral from the "dark side"
but, i insist, with many surrealists on the past, not less reactionary and
dogmatic as the used by the church and different religions. Satanism and other
religions, "white" or "black" were always denounced and fighted by
surrealists. Why not now?

As in the matter of censorship against Michael`s Betancourt`s works
maybe this will show our own concept of political and poetical and as in
that, some here probably (as Bill Elston and Frank from Malgosia Arkansas)
will refuse to sign any track and opposed to the previous situation they
even devaluate it.
But no matter if they devaluate or not any track the essential of the
positions of each one was shown here.
I still remain thinking that confounds me as surrealist (i am not a
curious or just simpathetic with surrealism) that we were almost all available
to sign a track on the subject of censorship against Michael and don`t feel
the same urgence and maybe more in the matter of fascist minds
that has nothing to do with freedom of expression and just are promoting
sexual abuse against childrens!!!

Yes, i see that Pierre leaved the term of fascist but i not. I am still
using it because is very evident for me, that the matter of filling your
basket with publicity of child pornography is nothing to do with "freedom of
expression". No matter the source (from corporations when they are
promoting their products using even childrens that are aliciated with money or
with those guys from the called "dark side") this is offending our minds as
free citizens!
As i said i am a liberatarian and i have no churches, "white" or "black".
So, for me they belongs to the same bag of reactionarism and obscurantism.

Pity i can`t express myself in a good enough english so, i ll have to wait for
a track to sign. Some have situated this in a good point to be sign for
all or almost all here (Barrett, Frank, Jean Jacques, Pierre).
Even if a brief but explicit position we need to say something.

carlos



   

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