Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:44:21 GMT
From: anacmar-AT-mail.telepac.pt (Carlos Martins)
Subject: Re: I thought this was a surrealist list...  (1)


Pierre

sorry my misunderstood, again a reading error from my side. It
seemed to me you are leaving from the list (because you are
tired, bored, etc.).

just a last point (so, i will interrupt any postings about
this subject) to say that
i think you are totally unfair even with you when you mean our dispute here as
a common nothingness. I shared with you that all this it`s not so creative as
we wanted but after all some disputes may contribute for a better
common knowledgle and a better definition of waht we want as a group.
We all have to take note that it`s the first time, maybe on centuries
who knows?..., that people like us, may at least to talk each other
several times in the same day. By other side we still have so many
problems of conciliating all our will and wish to be more active.
Of course we are not perfect and we make mistakes and sometimes we
also fail. Why not?
But saying "common nothingness" seems to me very unfair even
considering all your contribution on the past that contrarly what
you may think also enriched me, personally and creatively.

We can even ask, would we do it better than we are doing considering
most of us even don`t knew each other, i mean personally or even
creatively.
During these times may you imagine how the discussions here
will contribute to me for a better knowledge of, for example, the
american surrealist group, their interests and priorities, all
that they feel as the most important in the surrealist view if
compared the europeans especially those from the south?
All i personally knew about that, was naturally based on readings and also
in what Mario and others (older than me) told me, not from almost a
permanent conversation as here.
Well, i knew a few about that (Robert Green and Debra Taub from Chicago group
were here with us on Nov 1984 and the last visit i made to Mario he showed
me the works they still send to him) but never compared with we
could know by here.

So, now i even may be more sensitive than on the past, to the reasons and
concerns they defend as prioritary on surrealism and as creative persons.

On the future if we still remain to be active here and not
self-mutilating ourselves, certainly more companions will come and
also giving us and to the world, their important contribution.

so, i would ask even for those that by any manner are thinking the same as
you, to not leave or discriminate anyone here.

end of matter

carlos