Subject: surrealcompute
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 96 11:18:34 +0100
From: bogartte <bogartte-AT-execpc.com>


As Frank just mentioned           

"To summarize: I think you are far too optimistic, Luke. Obviously I'm 
not saying 
that technology (whether the printing press, TV or the internet) cannot 
be used 
subversively, but rather that there is a VERY strong tendency in the 
other 
direction."

Obviously... There is a strong tendency, thanks to HISTORY, GOD and 
assorted
miserable conditions imposed upon humans, etc., etc...  it's all Shit, of 
course!
Education is shit... Even communication is shit; nothing is said that 
hasn't been
said  before...

Out of fear, out of a lack of inspired direction (or example), most 
people just
go along...

So, it really goes without saying, subversion is still the only recourse, 
and the
internet is a great medium for it... Surrealism on the internet!  What a 
great idea!

SO, also, along those lines I agree completely with that aways enchanting 
Swedish
radical Carl-Michael... surrealism is really one of the most bizaare 
ideas, and is
still not only the best solution available, it remains unsuperceded... 
BUT, it needs
to extend and expand, it needs to evolve... in short, surrealism needs a 
boost!

"Surrealism should not dress reality in nicer colors. Interpretation is 
not a question of making the ugly beautiful. The surrealist prospect 
should provoke the spirit to transcend itself and meet objective reality 
in a surprising way."

YES!  YES!  And perhaps the internet can be a fine playground for such
transcendence...

By the way, have anyone of you read Archaic Revival, or Food of the Gods 
by
Terence Mckenna?  A very, very interesting mind at work there... with some
quirks, of course, but extremely radical.  He mentions in Archaic Revival 
that
the surrealists knew where the solutions were, and that (in his words) 
the human
species is moving towards the imagination and not, as it may seem, away 
>from it.

We are being drawn into the imagination...

J. Karl Bogartte

By the way, I can't seem to reach Jean-Jacques Meric... Is the Paris 
website closed?
or changed from: www.ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jmeric.