From: "Edward Moore" <monsieurtexteem-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: ????dumbfounded object
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 19:29:21 PDT



What is the point of this?  I wonder...

>No God-free zone here? Not even god-free?

why search for a god-free zone?  A carefully circumscribed area in which 
one can be "free" is not what Surrealism is about. And it is freedom 
that you are talking about, right?  Your own "personal freedom"?  

>Sade had the good sense to interrupt--that is, punctuate--his
>philosophical dialogues with scenes of vigorous fucking.
>And vice versa: where is the fucking?

You want freedom to "fuck," isn't that right, Mr. Beneke?  Your "query" 
says as much.  Or perhaps you're looking for a hole?  Sade was no 
"philosopher," by the way, regardless of what some "surrealists" might 
have said... unless you want to call him an "excrement philosopher." 
>
   ........

>My first and last request to the rest of you (not you yammerers--you 
know
>who you are and we have NOTHING to 'discuss')

The sole "yammerer," I assume, would be I, Edward Moore -- the one who 
used the metaphor "godhead," along with loads of religous metaphor and 
imagery in his writings (and, incidentally, the one who was foolish 
enough to email some notes in the vein of "Soul and Body Two" to Mr. 
Beneke).  It takes a certain amount of "courage," in a sense, to immerse 
oneself in an abandoned realm of knowledge and idea, a realm now so 
universally shunned by "intellectuals" as the realm of religion.  One 
can only break free of the influence of something by immersing oneself 
in it, completely -- and then, after mastering it, rejecting it by 
rigorous interpretation.  I will argue that we are still very much under 
the influence of religious thought; and by trying to find a "zone" that 
is free of religion, you are merely duplicating the movement of religion 
itself -- that is, hiding within a carefully circumscribed and defended 
territory.  Jacques Derrida identified this problem in his critique of 
Western Metaphysics, and his discussions of _bricolage_.

I suggest, Mr. Beneke, a widening of your field of vision.  You are 
right, there is nothing to discuss -- at least for the time being.

Edward Moore
<monsieurtexteEM-AT-hotmail.com>



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