File spoon-archives/technology.archive/technology_1995/technology_Apr.95, message 91


Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:31:41 -0400
From: Brad4d6-AT-aol.com
Subject: Re: Failed mail (fwd), or mortal morals


> My problem with much of this is the prioritization of "experience" [the way
> its used also implies a priority of consciousness -for, at least in Freud's
> discussion of them, 'my' 'I' 'our' is not a plausible discussion of the 
> system Uc's (as Freud calls the unconscious)], is that it just cannot
function
> as central in this way. Without a conception of the "I" as central (a 
> questioning which started with -at least- Marx/Nietzsche/Freud), much of
your
> central notion of mortality, which even in Heidegger happens to an
individuated
> subject, needs to be questioned.
> 
> M
> 
matteo mandarini

(1) One opinion of Freud as a philosopher, from a person who, for all his
faults, certainly was one.  Heidegger, after Medard Boss pressed him to read
some of Freud's works, responded that he was favorably impressed by Freud's
clinical descriptions, but that he was also amazed how such an intelligent
man could write such poor theory.

(2) Item #1 notwithstanding, Freud himself believed that consciousness
(including, particularly, making the unconscious conscious) was our only hope
in life (I don't have the reference at hand, but it's from 1937-8, in the
last volume of text in the Std. Ed.).

(3) Dear author, please answer this one!  If consciousness is not central,
what is?  And how is it central if it's not conscious, for aren't the
categories of relevance only considerations of consciousness?  Isn't the only
alternative to consciousness <unthinkable and inaccessible>?

Brad McCormick  


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