Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:18:18 -0500 (EST)
From: bhaatasari <gajjala+-AT-pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: readings


On Sun, 3 Nov 1996 atefeho-AT-vms2.macc.wisc.edu wrote:

> 
> Prof. Osage
> 
> You must be very lucky, not having experienced the tyrannic attitude of any
> women.  
> Could this be the start of the debate?  Gender or power/abuse of power
> Where is the problem? Are we dealing with a polarized world of Saint (women)
> and Evil (men) ?  May be  this is one of the diverging point of  (if we can
> categorize it this way ) western and non-western feminism.  What do you all
> think? 
> Atefeh

yes good point - does "Feminism" have to mean "saint" women vs "Evil" men

-  and why is it that there is a common misperception that gender
relations/feminism is out to eliminate the male gender?


> 
> 
> At 09:16 PM 11/3/96 +0000, Professor Osage wrote:
> >The best place to start with the history of women's resistance would be
> >with gathering information about the Amazons.  (amazon is a Greek word
> >meaning breast less in English)
> >
> >The Amazons were basically all women who resisted the onslaught of
> >patriarchy for thousands of years.  They are still here today evident in
> >at least some of the members of "third world women," who desire to right
> >the wrongs of patriarchy.
> >
> >I would like to suggest the following book for reading which will serve
> >as a jump off point for some serious business.
> >
> >The name of the book is "When God was a Woman" by Merlin Stone.  Any
> >woman who read this book will find their eyes opened to the tyranny of
> >patriarchy and so seek ways to counter this evil of male superiority.
> >
> >If you are seeking truth there are many book to use but they are not
> >advertised and that is why most books that are useful to women are not
> >known to most women.
> >
> >Or would the group prefer to read Darwin's "Origin of Species" or
> >Bancroft's "Native Races"  where you will find information and an
> >ancient ritual about baptism of the new born by the mid wife. ( vol. 3
> >page 372}
> >
> >This will help to prove that baptism predated Christianity.
> >
> >I have nothing against Christianity if it was practiced as preached, it
> >is the dishonesty of the practitioners that appalls me.  I my self am a
> >Christian who knows that the dead will not come back to life but the
> >spirit lives on and that the only foundation of the Christian church is
> >the hope that Jesus will return from the dead to save the living.
> >
> >Kamar Osage
> >luvgenie-AT-bellsouth.net
> >
> >
> Az Khak Bar'amadim-o- Bar Khak Shodym
> 

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